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Man, full frame: Talk me off the ledge?!

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Oct 01, 2012 12:59 |  #16

If you want I would give you an extra push right now. Go with 5d ii and you won't ever regret it.

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Oct 01, 2012 13:08 |  #17

It is very obvious that switching to full frame is a bad idea, and one that you will regret for ages.

Go straight to a large format camera...

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Oct 01, 2012 13:10 |  #18

You have any EF lenses? If so I suggest renting whatever version of the 5D you desire. I think that experience will make your decision crystal clear.


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Oct 01, 2012 13:15 |  #19

You came to the wrong place to be talked out of it. I love my 5dII, I went from t2i or 550d to it, I love it, you will love it, Ive just placed an order for a 70-200 f/2.8 is II and next will be the 5d3.

It's a slippery slope so why bother spending on other items, just go straight to the 5d, you will get one eventually.

Also I'll add, all I had for my first 5d2 was a 50mm 1.8 and I still enjoyed it long enough to get a 24-105 L

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Oct 01, 2012 13:15 |  #20

For now. Get the 17-55mm. It's a lovely lens.

My progression: xsi- 60d- 60d+7d - 60d+5d mk2 -5dmk2x2 - 5dmk3 and a 5d mk2 I will prob never use again.

Don't make the mistake I did when I had just the 60d, I bought the 24-70L because I wanted to be cool. I
Sold it in the end and picked up a 17-55 which is lush.

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Oct 01, 2012 13:18 |  #21

jwp721 wrote in post #15065479 (external link)
If the 2 best lenses you have to use on a full frame right now are the 50 1.8 and the 70-300mmIS 4.5-5.6 then I really think you should consider upgrading your lenses. Besides in a year or so the 5DMKIII will be in the range of where the MkII is right now.

Why put yourself into financial difficulty when you don't have to....

I know I am a downer but then I have seen enough pictures to realize the real magic happens behind the camera.....

I was thinking the same thing. I would find using just those two lenses very limiting. Also, I used to own both, and never really liked either lens.

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Oct 01, 2012 13:18 |  #22

I sold my 40D and 17-55 and got a 5D. Very happy with the trade.

Do you need the features of the 5D2? You could return your 60D and get a 5D plus glass.

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Oct 01, 2012 13:21 |  #23

If you stay with the 60d, you will always want a FF.

But if you went FF and couldn't add better glass, you would be better off staying with the 60d as far as better images.

The rental suggestion is a good one though.

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Oct 01, 2012 13:22 |  #24

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Spending an extra $1000, which is what this would cost if I return the 60D and pick up the 5D body only, is already scraping the limit of my budget comfort.

Getting the kit for $2500 would officially fall into the realm of discomfort from a money standpoint....

While there are some advantages to FF, there are also disadvantages. For the above reason unless there is pressing need to go FF, I would just be happy with what you have, or add a new lens if the $$ is burning a hole in your pocket.

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Oct 01, 2012 13:23 as a reply to  @ MichSt's post |  #25

Thanks for all the opinions, guys.

I think all I can swallow right now is the body only at $1800. It feels stupid not getting the kit considering I'd be getting the 24-105 for basically $300 off, but that extra $700 is a big deal for my budget.

If I do this, I'd also be severely lens challenged. 70-300 non-L and 50mm 1.8 would be my ONLY EF lenses available. My only other lens is the 18-55 IS, pretty much worthless to sell and plus I'd rather keep it on my other crop camera anyways.

I could maybe sell / trade the 70-300 for the 28-135 that probably would give me a more useable focal length for what I shoot, but I feel I won't be making the most out of the FF sensor. And it'll probably be another year before I have the funds to buy a solid lens worthy of the 5D, and by then who knows what prices will be on the 6D.

That being said, to those advocating the 5D Mark II, if the 50mm 1.8 and the 70-300 non-L are the only lenses I can use with that body, would it still be an upgrade?

Again, I could instead use the $1000 extra it would cost me to upgrade the 60D to a 5D on lenses instead- maybe the 24-105L that I could later use on a full frame body...

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Oct 01, 2012 13:36 |  #26

I think the 5DII with 50 f/1.8 and 70-300 non-L would be an "upgrade" of sorts, but it would be a "not really worth the money I spent" upgrade. You need to get the right lenses for what you like to shoot to go with the body for it truly to be a worthwhile upgrade. I'd recommend keeping the 60D, and developing an upgrade path that will let you accumulate the EF lenses you'll need/want when you do go full frame.

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Oct 01, 2012 13:39 |  #27

I wouldn't buy the 28-135 for the 5dmk2. Just saying you might be disappointed.

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Oct 01, 2012 14:10 as a reply to  @ davidc502's post |  #28

Ok, so at first, I recommended to just do it and get the 5D2. Now that you say it may be a year or more before you can get better glass, then maybe you should stick with the 60D and save the $1000 you have. In other words, DON'T get another lens, especially an EF-S lens if you plan to go FF in a year or two.

Enjoy your 60D now. In a year or two (or three or four) you can sell the 60D (or keep it as a backup), plus your saved $1001 ($1 interest on the $1000) and whatever else you've saved from here until then and get a FF with a nice EF combo lens (maybe the 6D or whatever else comes our way from here until then).

Good luck. Either way, you can't go wrong. The 60D is a great camera.

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Oct 01, 2012 14:14 |  #29

why dont you buy a used 5d2 for 1400- 1450 now and use the saving for a 24 -105. That kit plus 50 1.8 should be enough for you right now

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Oct 01, 2012 14:16 |  #30

Is the 5DII a better camera than the 60D? Yes.

But the 60D can make any shot that the 5DII can... especially if you will lens-challenged on the 5KII side.

Stay with the 60D. Use your extra money on lenses that WILL make your photos better.

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