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Old Manual Lenses: Looking for great manual lenses for 5d mark ii

 
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Oct 02, 2012 02:39 |  #1

Hello,

Lately i developed an interest on manual focus lens. Tested Rokinon 85 1.4 and fell in love with it. Its a different experience altogether using manual focus. As of this, I'm in search a good manual lens to satisfy my new photographic needs.

Im looking for 50 - 85mm range. ATM, I'm looking at these:

1) Minolta Rokkor PG 58mm/f1.2
2) Asahi Super-Takumar 50mm 1.4
3) Minolta MD Rokkor 85/1.7

I already have a EF 50L. Im looking for a lens that can rival/better my 50L. sharpness, color reproduction is what I'm looking for. I love shooting wide open.

I shoot peoples, and videos with my 5dmkii.

Any other suggestion or tips?




  
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Oct 02, 2012 02:48 |  #2

I can't help with your question, but there is a thread devoted to manual lenses and it's here.
Lots of info, pics and more than one expert in there...


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Oct 02, 2012 09:06 |  #3

The Takumar is probably the way to go.
Also consider the Rokinon 35 if you can go wider.
And the Nikon 50 or 55 1.2 if you want fast (but it's not as sharp).


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Oct 02, 2012 10:43 |  #4

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #15068507 (external link)
I can't help with your question, but there is a thread devoted to manual lenses and it's here.
Lots of info, pics and more than one expert in there...

Thanks for the link!

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Oct 02, 2012 12:52 |  #5

Another vote for the Super-Tak. I use mine for portrait work, and it never lets me down. Excellent image quality. Bought it for $70.00 on ebay.


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Oct 02, 2012 13:01 |  #6

One more vote for the Super-Tak. Great lens!




  
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Oct 05, 2012 14:34 |  #7

I just started messing around with a couple of lenses that I picked up off of Ebay - the Pentacon 135, 2.8 (zebra) and the Helios 44-3. Both pretty cool little lenses but the Helios sure did stand out.

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Oct 05, 2012 14:40 |  #8

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Oct 05, 2012 16:13 |  #9

Don't let anyone steer you away from one of the greatest lenses ever made. The rokkor 58 1.2 is that lens. Its seriously amazing. Fantastic color and bokeh. Overall look is very catching.

It and the ZE 50 makro are the best 50s you can use on full frame Canons. Ive used tons of fast 50s. It's an amazing lens.


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Oct 05, 2012 16:14 |  #10

Search out some of Denoir's pics with the 58 wide open, you'll be sold.


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Oct 06, 2012 13:11 |  #11

Are any of these older MF lenses going to deliver anything better, in any real-world sense, than the 50L? I appreciate it's fun to look into these older lenses, but is there really going to be any noticeable IQ improvement? (or maybe OP wants to sell the 50L?)


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Oct 06, 2012 13:38 |  #12

paulkaye wrote in post #15087463 (external link)
Are any of these older MF lenses going to deliver anything better, in any real-world sense, than the 50L? I appreciate it's fun to look into these older lenses, but is there really going to be any noticeable IQ improvement? (or maybe OP wants to sell the 50L?)

Well, the coating has seen significant improvements over the decades. Many of the old lenses have also developed yellowing on the glass. The focus confirmation rings are not nearly as precise as the AF, sorry. Myself I find it's not precise enough for manual focus with the narrow depth of field with f/1.4. I put in a EG-S focusing screen so that helped.

Having said that, the 50L is really good but it does have it's weaknesses, starting with the rather blocky looking bloom on background blur. In the end you'll see that each of these lenses has it's own character and you can't simply put them into a one-dimensional ranking.


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Oct 06, 2012 14:09 |  #13

plasticmotif wrote in post #15084561 (external link)
Don't let anyone steer you away from one of the greatest lenses ever made. The rokkor 58 1.2 is that lens. Its seriously amazing. Fantastic color and bokeh. Overall look is very catching.

It and the ZE 50 makro are the best 50s you can use on full frame Canons. Ive used tons of fast 50s. It's an amazing lens.

Have you used a Rokkor 58mm 1.2 on a 5D without it hitting the mirror at infinity focus?


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Oct 06, 2012 15:04 |  #14

DavidR wrote in post #15087648 (external link)
Have you used a Rokkor 58mm 1.2 on a 5D without it hitting the mirror at infinity focus?

Old conversion school say that is not possible!

Bur new lens converter say it is :-)
My Rokkor 58/1.2 worked at infinity with both EOS 5D classic. But one needs to file down the back lens retaining ring a bit. Others that converted their lens following my description reached infinity as well. But: Some may not, because of lens and camera tolerances!


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Oct 06, 2012 15:18 |  #15

paulkaye wrote in post #15087463 (external link)
Are any of these older MF lenses going to deliver anything better, in any real-world sense, than the 50L? ..

I don't like AF - and because of this old lenses are much better for me.
Some of the old lenses have a pretty high quality, I have posted this link to Erwin Puts tests (external link) several times by now. Maybe this is the reason for the high prices for manual glass :-)
I work partly in optics industry, and optical designer donĀ“t like lead-free glass. It is much work to make good lenses without these "leaded" glass.

There are image comparisons made with the EF 50/1.0 and 1.2L and Rokkor 58/1.2 and other manual lenses. The Rokkor with its 8mm longer focal length has bigger bokeh rings than the others. And image quality was not bad, probably on par with the EF lenses. But this is probably likely personal preferences.
Coatings on modern lenses should be better, so stray light could be worst on old lenses.

I read astronomers prefer FD glass over EF lenses, because of better quality.


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