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Oct 02, 2012 11:52 |  #1

As prices have reached the $350 range for the G12 I was thinking of moving to the G12 (from the G10).

I noticed that the G12 has less MP's thatn the G10. Will that affect the ability of printing large prints.

Any other comparisons between the two cameras that may help in my decision?


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Oct 02, 2012 12:27 |  #2

Canon had a purpose in reducing the MP of the G12, it was for noise reduction . The G12's noise is so much better than the 10, its unbelievable. In fact! there are many impeovements over the G10.

I think personaly the G12, will be the last of the really great G series cameras. Their other introductions so far, eliminate some of the G's most attractive features. Not to mention lesser build quality. The 12 feels like a real camera, from what I gather the new ones G15/G1X feel like flimsy digital cameras. Well except!, the G1X is as big as a house.

I assume as you can see the new cameras do not impress me, and I don't care for them. :)

I've been considering buying a second G12 just to stash back, in case the one I have goes south.

How large of prints bigger than 13x19, mine does that easily, and well.


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Oct 02, 2012 13:53 |  #3

Stashing a G12 for me is not an option at the present time. A serious consideration I would have if my 12 were to go south would be the cost of repair (rebuild) vs what is available for replacement and the cost. I don't believe newer is always better.

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Take a look a the pics in the G12 pic thread. I don't think you would be upset if you did decide to get a 12. IIRC, The 12 was a little over $500. when it first came out. . I paid $439. at Henry's in Winnipeg last October and thought that was pretty good. Getting a new one in the $350 range
is kinda like stealing. ha ha.




  
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Oct 02, 2012 14:35 |  #4

Larry20d wrote in post #15070106 (external link)
As prices have reached the $350 range for the G12 I was thinking of moving to the G12 (from the G10).

I noticed that the G12 has less MP's thatn the G10. Will that affect the ability of printing large prints.

Any other comparisons between the two cameras that may help in my decision?

You might want to read the I-R reviews for both cameras. They indicated you could print up to 20 x 30 for the G10 at ISO 80, but not so for the G12.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/G10​/G10A.HTM (external link)

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/G12​/G12A.HTM (external link)

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Oct 02, 2012 15:15 |  #5

denncald wrote in post #15070840 (external link)
You might want to read the I-R reviews for both cameras. They indicated you could print up to 20 x 30 for the G10 at ISO 80, but not so for the G12.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/G10​/G10A.HTM (external link)

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/G12​/G12A.HTM (external link)

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Anyone else care to comment on the quality of large prints?


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Oct 02, 2012 23:10 as a reply to  @ Larry20d's post |  #6

I seriously doubt getting a decent 20x30, out of a G10 at ISO 80. 80 is not the native ISO of the sensor, and would have more noise than ISO 100. Given the considerable noise of the G10, I would doubt a print of that size bearing any close inspection.

Besides, I don't find printing posters to my liking anyway. I print mostly 8.5x11, and find 13x19 adequately big enough. I would prefer to paint my walls, and not paper them. :lol:

There are so many advances in the G12 over the G10, a little print size thing would not even be a consideration!, on my part. Besides I do my own printing, and could not afford the ink for printing in those dimensions, much less 5 grand for a printer that could do it.


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Oct 03, 2012 00:36 |  #7

I have printed 16x20 with results that won at my camera club for what that's worth.
Get the exposure and the post processing right and you'll be great.


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Oct 03, 2012 00:50 |  #8

Larry20d wrote in post #15071008 (external link)
Anyone else care to comment on the quality of large prints?


I've shot published work with my G12 on occasions where my other gear wasn't available. It does plenty well, but the larger question might be how large you want to print. I've had 20x30 pictures done for clients who have them hanging in offices and businesses with 10mp not being an issue. The prints look fantastic.


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Oct 03, 2012 06:33 as a reply to  @ Stickman's post |  #9

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1234393

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Oct 03, 2012 08:02 as a reply to  @ dlr328's post |  #10

Great responses. My most printed size is 13x19 ( got a great deal on 200 sheets). For a moment I thought about a Sony RX 100 - though only for a moment. I like the external controls on my G10 so it seems the G12 will serve my needs. Also, the Sony is considerably more money.


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Oct 03, 2012 09:27 |  #11

Thanks. However, I am looking to buy new without any attachments.


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Oct 03, 2012 17:33 as a reply to  @ Larry20d's post |  #12

Bought a new one on EBAY for $334.00 shipped. Hopefully, I wasn't scammed. Seller states that she got if for a gift and has no desire to keep it.


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