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Oct 03, 2012 23:18 |  #1

Been asked to photograph the local football club's premiership winning team tomorrow night.
I'm more an action photog than portraits, so I'm after some pointers.

Probably around 26 people.
I have the D-lite 4 kit.
I'm assuming the 2 lights front on at 1/3 & 2/3 across the front?
Should I use the softboxes, or just the reflector dishes?

Any other pointers welcome.




  
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Oct 04, 2012 18:04 |  #2

anyone?




  
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Oct 04, 2012 18:24 as a reply to  @ Markd102's post |  #3

To light that size group with two 400 Ws strobes I would use a couple of large umbrellas.


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Oct 04, 2012 18:38 |  #4

Don't have umbrellas, just the kit softboxes




  
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Oct 04, 2012 18:53 |  #5

Then use the bare reflectors, the small softboxes will not soften the light much and would only rob power.


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Oct 04, 2012 19:04 |  #6

One light on each side of the camera, equidistant, not too far out pointing straight ahead. For a group you want reasonably flat lighting so that no shadow are falling from one subject onto the next. A bit higher than the camera is good if possible. Do a test with the softboxes to see how much power it robs.




  
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Oct 04, 2012 19:10 |  #7

I can get a couple of small cheap shoot-through umbrellas.
Would they be any better than the softboxes for spreading the light?




  
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Oct 04, 2012 19:13 |  #8

Markd102 wrote in post #15080868 (external link)
I can get a couple of small cheap shoot-through umbrellas.
Would they be any better than the softboxes for spreading the light?

Only if they are bigger than the softboxes. How big are the softboxes?




  
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Oct 04, 2012 19:27 |  #9

60cm x 60cm
bigger than the umbrellas I think.




  
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Oct 04, 2012 20:35 |  #10

Markd102 wrote in post #15080868 (external link)
I can get a couple of small cheap shoot-through umbrellas.
Would they be any better than the softboxes for spreading the light?

Shoot-through umbrellas would waste a lot of your available light because a lot of the light will be bounced away from the subject before getting through the fabric.

Umbrellas are good, but only ones that reflect all the light toward the subject are useful for this type of work.


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Oct 04, 2012 20:45 |  #11

Just found out the D-Lite kit only comes with one reflector dish. How pointless is that?!

So it's softboxes or bust




  
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Oct 04, 2012 20:53 |  #12

I've photographed a lot of teams this size. You are probably going to be 3 deep.

I would try and keep my rows like this:
rear row - 9 people
middle - 8 people
front row - 9 people

Focus in the middle of the group with an aperture around f/8. Unless these are going to be printed large I would shoot at 800 ASA - I shoot with a 5dII and this works well. I've gone higher when it is only going to be and 8x10 print. (2000 ASA)

So far as the flashes - I tend to keep them equidistant left and right of the camera and keep them high, pointing down at the group. The height will keep the shadows from falling onto the row behind. If you get there early enough and have help try a few test shots with the umbrellas, boxes and direct. Just have your assistant stand in the general area and take a few test shots with each situation at 3 different locations - left right & center.

Since I shoot with a higher ASA I will shoot thru an umbrella and feather it towards the center of the group.

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Oct 04, 2012 21:09 |  #13

Hello to all,
After the game do you have enough time to get the shot done? a lot of winning players moving about all over the place..?
do you have a area staged out for the team photo where you or a helper can set up the lights..?
Can you reshoot the team photo at a better time / date (if team is local to your area).
if use two lights on each side that someone else said before...

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Oct 04, 2012 21:13 as a reply to  @ pickle1's post |  #14

pickle1 what a nice guy you are for offering such extended help to the op.
That's "paying it forward" - you deserve a pat on the back.




  
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Oct 04, 2012 21:19 |  #15

SamFrench wrote in post #15081325 (external link)
pickle1 what a nice guy you are for offering such extended help to the op.
That's "paying it forward" - you deserve a pat on the back.

Very cool, but if he calls you collect from his home town you might not like the long distance bill... ha ha ha lol :D.


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