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Oct 06, 2012 13:10 |  #1

I always wanted one but the price was a little high for me... Considering i have the 500D it wont be a night and day difference for what i would need it.

But the price now is really attractive and my wife wouldnt mind me getting it for the first year anniversery...

the only thing is that i dont know if i should wait for something better ISO performance. Im not looking into a full frame as this would be way out of my budget and not to mention the "L" stuff :)




  
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Oct 06, 2012 13:28 |  #2

Well a 7D is a great camera and if your willing to buy a used one they appear to be selling for arround $950. The 5D Mark II are about $1500 - $1600. Then there's is the new 6D at $2000. So decide how much you can afford and pick what suits you.


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Oct 06, 2012 13:31 as a reply to  @ swldstn's post |  #3

The 7D is no slouch with high(ish) ISO settings. Of course the 5D MkIII and the 1Dx are raising the ISO bar, but those are very pricey rigs. The 7D does quite well at 1600 ISO.


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Oct 06, 2012 13:42 |  #4

The longer you wait, the cheaper the 7D will get. If you wait long enough something better will come along. How long are you willing to wait?


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Oct 06, 2012 14:45 |  #5

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The longer you wait, the cheaper the 7D will get. If you wait long enough something better will come along. How long are you willing to wait?

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Oct 06, 2012 15:27 |  #6

I've just swapped a 60D for a 7D mainly for the better AF system and MA ability but I just wish the photos were as clean at ISO1600 as the 60D was. IMO that's about the only thing that lets a 7D down so I'll hang onto it and see what the next crop camera that comes out is like. I'm going to mainly shoot wildlife with it so it'll be mainly in decent light anyway.


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Oct 06, 2012 15:31 |  #7

modchild wrote in post #15087862 (external link)
I've just swapped a 60D for a 7D mainly for the better AF system and MA ability but I just wish the photos were as clean at ISO1600 as the 60D was. IMO that's about the only thing that lets a 7D down so I'll hang onto it and see what the next crop camera that comes out is like. I'm going to mainly shoot wildlife with it so it'll be mainly in decent light anyway.

I wouldn't expect the 7D to be worse than the 60D at ISO1600.... (or any other ISO)?


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Oct 06, 2012 15:49 |  #8

I just bought one from Amazon for $1337 and no tax plus added a lens for $170.00 with promotion and no tax.


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Oct 06, 2012 16:48 |  #9

modchild wrote in post #15087862 (external link)
I've just swapped a 60D for a 7D mainly for the better AF system and MA ability but I just wish the photos were as clean at ISO1600 as the 60D was. IMO that's about the only thing that lets a 7D down so I'll hang onto it and see what the next crop camera that comes out is like. I'm going to mainly shoot wildlife with it so it'll be mainly in decent light anyway.

I would think that the sensor performance between the two is the same as they use the same sensor. Do you have examples taken from each with the same settings to compare? It sounds like you have done some.


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Oct 06, 2012 18:44 |  #10

BukvaMan wrote in post #15087462 (external link)
I always wanted one but the price was a little high for me... Considering i have the 500D it wont be a night and day difference for what i would need it.

But the price now is really attractive and my wife wouldnt mind me getting it for the first year anniversery...

the only thing is that i dont know if i should wait for something better ISO performance. Im not looking into a full frame as this would be way out of my budget and not to mention the "L" stuff :)

What do you own now besides the 500D?


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Oct 06, 2012 18:46 |  #11

gjl711 wrote in post #15087556 (external link)
The longer you wait, the cheaper the 7D will get. If you wait long enough something better will come along. How long are you willing to wait?

I jumped on my 7D 3 years ago when it was brand new, I got a great deal on it at the time (Basically $1400 net after i used a 10% off coupon and sold the 28-135 that came with it) and i cant say im too upset that its only worth maybe $950 now because I've gotten a good $4000 worth of enjoyment out of it ;)


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Oct 06, 2012 19:31 |  #12

gjl711 wrote in post #15087556 (external link)
The longer you wait, the cheaper the 7D will get. If you wait long enough something better will come along. How long are you willing to wait?

This is true. However, there's "better" and then there's "good enough". The question is: will the 7D be "good enough"?

The 7D's high ISO performance is surprisingly good:

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That's an ISO 12800 shot (actually, ISO 6400 pushed a stop), taken in tungsten lighting (the most challenging lighting for high ISO because it requires that the blue channel be pushed harder to achieve a proper white balance. The blue channel is the noisiest in these cameras).

If you can achieve results like that at ISO 12800, how much more do you really need? Some will need even better, to be sure, but even so, ISO 12800 is right up there. I expect many/most people wouldn't have much use for more.

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Oct 06, 2012 19:34 |  #13

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Oct 06, 2012 19:45 |  #14

kcbrown wrote in post #15088500 (external link)
This is true. However, there's "better" and then there's "good enough". The question is: will the 7D be "good enough"?

The 7D's high ISO performance is surprisingly good:


That's an ISO 12800 shot (actually, ISO 6400 pushed a stop), taken in tungsten lighting (the most challenging lighting for high ISO because it requires that the blue channel be pushed harder to achieve a proper white balance. The blue channel is the noisiest in these cameras).

If you can achieve results like that at ISO 12800, how much more do you really need? Some will need even better, to be sure, but even so, ISO 12800 is right up there. I expect many/most people wouldn't have much use for more.

Agreed... 3200 is VERY usable...:

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Oct 06, 2012 20:30 |  #15

Stop that! You're making me hungry. And thirsty. :lol:


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