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Oct 11, 2012 07:11 |  #31

If you use a tripod or monopod, you don't need the IS. If you don't, it helps a lot.

Lens speed is important, but one more time, if you are shooting sports at night, a decent f/2.8 like the Tamron is much more important than an f/4 with faster focusing. I assume from the direction this thread has taken that you shoot in bright sunlight.

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Oct 11, 2012 08:04 |  #32

Fuce wrote in post #15107446 (external link)
If you use a tripod or monopod, you don't need the IS. If you don't, it helps a lot.

Lens speed is important, but one more time, if you are shooting sports at night, a decent f/2.8 like the Tamron is much more important than an f/4 with faster focusing. I assume from the direction this thread has taken that you shoot in bright sunlight.

Cheers.

Oh right okay, that clears it up for me then, thanks.
Yeah it's going to be day time shoots, possibly the very rare shoot at night.
Thanks for the info. :)


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Oct 11, 2012 17:12 |  #33

I had the 70-200L f4 and sold it after I got the Tamron 70-300 VC USD. It cost less, was longer, and had stabilization. The IQ is just great. It is one heck of a bargain.


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Oct 11, 2012 19:29 |  #34

BrickR wrote in post #15109705 (external link)
I had the 70-200L f4 and sold it after I got the Tamron 70-300 VC USD. It cost less, was longer, and had stabilization. The IQ is just great. It is one heck of a bargain.

Ah great thanks, might be a suitable alternative, but I've been told the 70 - 200 has a faster shutter speed? Will that make a big difference? Or is it noticeable? And is the photo quality in general worse/same/better?

Oh and would you mind sending me a link for the exact one? I've searched it but there are a few! Thanks!


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Oct 11, 2012 20:04 |  #35

Sorarse wrote in post #15104944 (external link)
Buy cheap, buy twice. If photography for you isn't just a passing phase, but something you get your teeth into, I can pretty much guarantee that if you buy cheap lenses now, you will be looking to upgrade them for the more expensive version in the not too distant future.

Obviously if you are not too sure how seriously you are going to get in to this new hobby, then it doesn't make sense to spend shed loads of dosh if you give up in a short while, but a good quality lens will hold it's value quite well if you decide to sell up.

^^^ very fair and accurate statement.

With that said,

a economical approach as you mentioned your limiting budget.
50 1.8
18-55
50-250
All bought used, can be had very reasonable.

Speaking from a perspective "man I dig this photograpy" will cost you more
15-85 or 17-55
70-200 F4lis or 70-300Lis
This kit will put smiles on your face, asking yourself, did I photograph that...

In all fairness the same can be said, with the economical kit to a lesser degree.
As I have seen some amazing shots from the economical kit from more experienced photographers...


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Oct 12, 2012 09:38 as a reply to  @ Bianchi's post |  #36

BrickR wrote in post #15109705 (external link)
I had the 70-200L f4 and sold it after I got the Tamron 70-300 VC USD. It cost less, was longer, and had stabilization. The IQ is just great. It is one heck of a bargain.

Brelly wrote in post #15110279 (external link)
Ah great thanks, might be a suitable alternative, but I've been told the 70 - 200 has a faster shutter speed? Will that make a big difference? Or is it noticeable? And is the photo quality in general worse/same/better?

Oh and would you mind sending me a link for the exact one? I've searched it but there are a few! Thanks!

Here you go: http://www.tamron.co.j​p/en/lineup/a005/index​.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_70_300mm_f_4_5​_6_Di.html (external link)

The Canon 70-200 f/4L will prolly have slightly faster focus and slightly better Image Quality, at a higher price. The Tammy offers an additional 100 mm reach at an attractive price.


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Oct 12, 2012 10:26 |  #37

You are getting some good advice here, but maybe more than you are ready to absorb properly. May I suggest you get your camera, and use the lens that came with it for at least a month before you consider buying anything else? Obviously for sports you will need a longer lens, but learn how to use your camera and you may find there are things you like and dont like that could color your future purchase.




  
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Oct 12, 2012 10:28 |  #38

Yogi Bear wrote in post #15112508 (external link)
Here you go: http://www.tamron.co.j​p/en/lineup/a005/index​.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_70_300mm_f_4_5​_6_Di.html (external link)

The Canon 70-200 f/4L will prolly have slightly faster focus and slightly better Image Quality, at a higher price. The Tammy offers an additional 100 mm reach at an attractive price.

I'm spoiled by constant aperture. Manual shooting in steady light becomes so much easier at max aperture, and post processing can be done in batches much more accurately.


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Oct 12, 2012 11:10 |  #39

Thanks for all the help guys! Just found a website that might make stuff more affordable for me, still thinking about the canon but failing that, the Tamron looks like a good alternative.

I'm actually now looking at this too:

http://www.valuebasket​.com …nproduct/view/1​0226-AA-NA (external link)

Any thoughts would be helpful.


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Oct 12, 2012 11:52 |  #40

gonzogolf wrote in post #15112675 (external link)
You are getting some good advice here, but maybe more than you are ready to absorb properly. May I suggest you get your camera, and use the lens that came with it for at least a month before you consider buying anything else? Obviously for sports you will need a longer lens, but learn how to use your camera and you may find there are things you like and dont like that could color your future purchase.

QFT.

Get the camera; and use it for a while. See what you wish you could do; then buy to fill in the gaps.

Why buy a 70-200L when you find you always shoot @18mm with kit lens? Would just be a waste of money. I made the mistake of buying 3 lens with my camera; and one year later I don't use 2 of them (and third gets used once every 6 months).


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Oct 12, 2012 11:56 |  #41

^^ This and the Canon EF 50mm 1.8
Combined with the kit lens and you can have all kinds of fun.


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Oct 12, 2012 12:03 |  #42

Brelly wrote in post #15107360 (external link)
Okay, so I'm pretty set on getting the 70-200mm. But I've noticed there is an IS and non IS version, would it make a huge difference to the photos with the non IS lens? Just wondering if it's worth the price difference? As its a larger gap!

I've had a 70-200 f4L non IS and the 70-200 F2.8L IS. I'd rather wait and go for the IS than not to have IS again. It make a huge difference overall.




  
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Oct 12, 2012 12:30 |  #43

DutchinCLE wrote in post #15113048 (external link)
^^ This and the Canon EF 50mm 1.8
Combined with the kit lens and you can have all kinds of fun.

Thanks for the info. What exactly would i use the 50mm lens for?


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Oct 12, 2012 12:32 |  #44

ChuckingFluff wrote in post #15113070 (external link)
I've had a 70-200 f4L non IS and the 70-200 F2.8L IS. I'd rather wait and go for the IS than not to have IS again. It make a huge difference overall.

Thanks for the advice, but it's just a tad out of my price range!


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Oct 12, 2012 12:48 |  #45

50 mm 1.8 would be my recommendation




  
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