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Oct 19, 2012 14:35 |  #8191

ahmad0420 wrote in post #15141978 (external link)
Love the second one. Maybe can adjust the wb abit?

Thanks yea I will do it over again.

VisualEchos wrote in post #15142324 (external link)
Yup, too much magenta. Still cool shots.

Thanks bro practice makes perfect;)

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Love the last picture, JoeyBaccala

Thank you very much!


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Oct 19, 2012 15:33 |  #8192

I think I used 2.5" exposure or 3.2" :)
I have my theory how it works, but can't even find a way to explain it.

Here is another, from today

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And I just realised I did not remove suction part of the suction cup :)) lol



  
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Oct 19, 2012 15:58 |  #8193

First Rig Shot. Many more to come but today was raining and only had my moms wagon.

i used a Rokinon 8mm fisheye, forgot my Tokina 20-35mm lens.

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Oct 19, 2012 20:17 |  #8194

CraigPatterson wrote in post #15143842 (external link)
I don't do a lot of rig shots, so I've always wondered about something. Take a look at the yellow tree in the center of Damirk's second shot. It doesn't look blurred, it looks like there were a bunch of "mini-exposures" that are blurred together. I know he hasn't done anything wrong, because I see this on at least three-quarters of all rig shots that aren't taken straight-on to movement. What causes that phenomena?


its due to the angle at which you are approaching or receding to or from an object. the closer the object is the more blur you will have because of the speed you are passing it. look at the first tree being all blurry and the far trees are nearly still. This is because the angle that you have changed in the same distance you have moved is much greater to the close tree than the far tree. think of driving down a open highway, when you look immediately to your left or right anything along the roadside is passing by very fast and blurry. But if look off in the distance to a 45* angle the horizon seems to be nearly still and in focus. it because of the distance you are from it. To get rid of this you need to be closer to 90* perpendicular or close to parallel for this certain shutter length. A longer exposure will blur more of the pic entirely obviously if you did want to use this same angle. On the few tests Ive done with my rig Ive had this same thing come up and just experimenting with angle/speed showed me what I needed to reduce it.


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Oct 20, 2012 10:10 |  #8195

Hi guys,

I've had my rig for over a year now, and although it has performed great in all instances that I was able to use it, I only get to use it when light is fading due to shutter speeds.

I would now like to buy an ND filter to be able to use my rig during daytime too. I've seen some rigshots here with bright blue skies and some nice white clouds... so it can be done.

My question to you: how many stops should I buy? I'm currently looking at the B+W gray ND 103 77 E filter, this cuts 3 stops of light, but will this be enough?




  
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Oct 20, 2012 12:07 |  #8196

PJH wrote in post #15146608 (external link)
Hi guys,

I've had my rig for over a year now, and although it has performed great in all instances that I was able to use it, I only get to use it when light is fading due to shutter speeds.

I would now like to buy an ND filter to be able to use my rig during daytime too. I've seen some rigshots here with bright blue skies and some nice white clouds... so it can be done.

My question to you: how many stops should I buy? I'm currently looking at the B+W gray ND 103 77 E filter, this cuts 3 stops of light, but will this be enough?

I'm using Hoya ND8 and it was good enough. Not sure what's the B+W equivalent.


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Oct 20, 2012 20:57 |  #8197

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Oct 21, 2012 00:10 |  #8198

Dom87SS wrote in post #15144970 (external link)
its due to the angle at which you are approaching or receding to or from an object. the closer the object is the more blur you will have

No, you're missing what I'm talking about. I don't mean the length of the blur, that's obvious. I'm talking about how the trees are *not* just blurred, they also have a distinct multi-exposure quality, as though there were several blurred shutter releases blended together. The branches are not one blurry smear, they're also visible individually in several different places within the same blur. This distinct-image effect is more noticeable when the angle is more perpendicular to the camera.


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Oct 21, 2012 02:08 |  #8199

PJH wrote in post #15146608 (external link)
...I would now like to buy an ND filter to be able to use my rig during daytime too. I've seen some rigshots here with bright blue skies and some nice white clouds... so it can be done.

My question to you: how many stops should I buy? I'm currently looking at the B+W gray ND 103 77 E filter, this cuts 3 stops of light, but will this be enough?

You can stack PL and ND flters. 3 stop is a minimum and won't have much effect in full sun. 6 stops (B+W ND106) is more useful in full sun, and you can stack a PL for more effect. B+W ND 110 or the Hoya NDx400 are 10 and 9 stop respectively and can be useful too.

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I'm using Hoya ND8 and it was good enough. Not sure what's the B+W equivalent.

ND103


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Oct 21, 2012 03:51 |  #8200

CraigPatterson wrote in post #15148750 (external link)
No, you're missing what I'm talking about. I don't mean the length of the blur, that's obvious. I'm talking about how the trees are *not* just blurred, they also have a distinct multi-exposure quality, as though there were several blurred shutter releases blended together. The branches are not one blurry smear, they're also visible individually in several different places within the same blur. This distinct-image effect is more noticeable when the angle is more perpendicular to the camera.

That tree looks that way because off the way the rig was cloned out. That repeating pattern makes it look the way it does. I think that is what you are referring too?

I never posted it because i never edited it but this was the first picture taken with my newly built rig. I like the "commercial" look some people achieve and was aiming for something in that direction. Needs more blue maybe...

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Oct 21, 2012 07:21 as a reply to  @ photophilth's post |  #8201

Trying a slightly higher postion shot, need to get those cups further apart for stability on the rig


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Oct 21, 2012 07:22 |  #8202

CraigPatterson wrote in post #15148750 (external link)
No, you're missing what I'm talking about. I don't mean the length of the blur, that's obvious. I'm talking about how the trees are *not* just blurred, they also have a distinct multi-exposure quality, as though there were several blurred shutter releases blended together. The branches are not one blurry smear, they're also visible individually in several different places within the same blur. This distinct-image effect is more noticeable when the angle is more perpendicular to the camera.

Its just a phenomenum ....seeen it some times in my backgroungs....cant change it...


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Oct 21, 2012 07:25 |  #8203

BYW,...

Nice Lotus Andrew

Nice Mustang John

WRX shoot tonight was a disaster,...owner rushing too much no usable shots,,,DOH!!

Gotta start putting some rules around these shoots,....car owners ....

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Oct 21, 2012 20:20 |  #8204

Had to buy a new car...so I had to rig it! Loving it so far.

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Oct 21, 2012 20:44 |  #8205

CraigPatterson wrote in post #15148750 (external link)
No, you're missing what I'm talking about. I don't mean the length of the blur, that's obvious. I'm talking about how the trees are *not* just blurred, they also have a distinct multi-exposure quality, as though there were several blurred shutter releases blended together. The branches are not one blurry smear, they're also visible individually in several different places within the same blur. This distinct-image effect is more noticeable when the angle is more perpendicular to the camera.


i understand what your getting at and not sure exactly why it records this like sometimes, but i still think it has something to do with angle/acceleration rate. i shot this last night and it has the same effect, look at the tire. if it were a longer exposure it would be a solid blur, a little shorter and it shows like this with just less "copies" of the image. Though not a rig shot its has similar attributes.

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