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Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 vs. Canon EF 300mm f4+1.4xTC

 
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Oct 21, 2012 00:50 |  #1

I welcome some advice on what to buy, the 100-400/4.5-5.6 or the 300/4 + 1.4xTC. I will use it mostly for birding. If I get the zoom, I will use it mostly for birding in the long end of the range. I have the 1.4xTC already and will need to pay almost the same amount of money for either. I really appreciate your advice.


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Oct 21, 2012 02:25 |  #2

If it's birding you're after then for sure get the 400mm f5.6 (no zoom!).
I have the 300 f4 + 1,4 extender but hardly use it becouse of the loss of quality.
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Oct 21, 2012 02:36 as a reply to  @ Lenty007's post |  #3

If birding is your thing (specifically BIF) i would get the 400/5.6L first (you can't compromise on AF speed/accuracy, and reach)

If BIF and regular posed Bird/wildlife shots, the 100-400L

The 300/4L IS if BIF is the least of your concern.

That would be my order of purchase.

300 f/4 IS W/1.4x TC is very good, but AF takes a hit, as does IQ, so you may as well get the 100-400, and have the zoom flexibility.


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Oct 21, 2012 06:43 |  #4

400L f/5.6 is a great lens for birding
fast focus and no sounds of the old IS in the 100-400L and the 300L f/4
the last 2 lenses are great but i dont like that sound from the old IS


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Oct 21, 2012 14:23 |  #5

1Tanker wrote in post #15148967 (external link)
If birding is your thing (specifically BIF) i would get the 400/5.6L first (you can't compromise on AF speed/accuracy, and reach)

If BIF and regular posed Bird/wildlife shots, the 100-400L

The 300/4L IS if BIF is the least of your concern.

That would be my order of purchase.

300 f/4 IS W/1.4x TC is very good, but AF takes a hit, as does IQ, so you may as well get the 100-400, and have the zoom flexibility.


"If BIF and regular posed Bird/wildlife shots, the 100-400L"
I think that this would be a good compromise. However, definitely, I find myself doing mostly:

"If birding is your thing (specifically BIF) i would get the 400/5.6L first (you can't compromise on AF speed/accuracy, and reach)"

I will see where I can bet a better deal (of the two).


The clank does not bother me (I am used to it, from the Sigma OS lenses).

THanks, Pepe. Anyone else?


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Oct 21, 2012 14:44 as a reply to  @ Pepe Guitarra's post |  #6

I tried the 300/4 IS at a store and I loved it. I tried it with the 1.4x and felt the change in IQ. Here are two samples that I took:

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The next two samples were taken through the window glass of the store:

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Oct 21, 2012 16:15 as a reply to  @ Pepe Guitarra's post |  #7

if you need a 300mm f4 lens and you occasionally want to use a TC get the prime.

the prime will be slightly sharper at 300mm than the zoom but the zoom will be sharper than the 300mm plus TC.

i've owned both and in fact i've owned the 300L f2.8 also. my lens of choice is the 100-400L.


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Oct 21, 2012 18:30 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #8

one thing that is nice about the 300+TC is that its 420mm.
that little bit CAN help.
Plus you do have an f4 lens when its darker out which is when many birds like to be out (early AM when light is nice).

Image Stabilization is not really needed for BIF so dont worry about that much. I turn my IS OFF when doing BIF as it slows the time to AF lock.



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Oct 21, 2012 20:44 as a reply to  @ jhayesvw's post |  #9

Two things that I like about my 300mm f/4L IS lens is the relatively close focusing capability (in comparison to the 400mm f/5.6L) and the fact that it has a built-in retracting lens hood which is very handy. The 400mm f/5.6L also has a built-in hood while the 100-400mm zoom uses a separate lens hood.

The subject to image ratio of the 300mm f/4L IS can be increased by adding the 1.4x TC which increases the focal length to 420mm but keeps the same MFD as the bare 300mm lens...


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Oct 21, 2012 21:23 |  #10

I have tried the 300 4 IS many time thinking slap a 1.4 on it and I don't need a 1-400 well as always I was wrong the 1-400 is the way to go. I have been thinking of selling my 1-400 and going with the 400 5.6 but I been there before. This time I have a 70-200 2.8 IS MKII thinking I could do a 1.4 for a zoom. But the 1-400 is a killer lens




  
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Oct 21, 2012 21:35 |  #11

RPCrowe wrote in post #15151826 (external link)
Two things that I like about my 300mm f/4L IS lens is the relatively close focusing capability (in comparison to the 400mm f/5.6L) and the fact that it has a built-in retracting lens hood which is very handy. The 400mm f/5.6L also has a built-in hood while the 100-400mm zoom uses a separate lens hood.

The subject to image ratio of the 300mm f/4L IS can be increased by adding the 1.4x TC which increases the focal length to 420mm but keeps the same MFD as the bare 300mm lens...

Thank you. I like your photos. I am still now debating between the 100-400/4.5-5.6 and the 400/5.6. Although I almost buy the 300/4 yesterday before I posted here asking for help. It was my first time using a Canon L tele lens, I was very impressed with the 300/4. I have used only Sigmas so far.


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Oct 22, 2012 15:11 as a reply to  @ Pepe Guitarra's post |  #12

Well, I ordered the 400/5.6 to have the best for BIF, which is the thing I go for most of the time. It is in the mail. So, I will post pics as soon as I get it. Thanks everyone who participated in the advice.


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Oct 22, 2012 15:15 as a reply to  @ Pepe Guitarra's post |  #13

I have been meaning to shoot a series of images using the bare 70-200mm f/4L IS, 300mm f/4L IS and 400mm f/5.6L and then these lenses using my 1.4x TC (manually focusing the 400L lens).

However, every time I start doing this; some of my "Honey Do" duties interfere...


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Oct 26, 2012 21:45 as a reply to  @ RPCrowe's post |  #14

My 400/5.6 arrived. Here are the first shots with my 5DMarkII:

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Oct 26, 2012 21:50 |  #15

Great shots. I recently got a 400 as well. It is my pride and joy now. I just made a cover for it (like a Lens Coat) for $15. My 400 takes a 2x Kenko Tc very very well. MF only of course.

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