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Oct 23, 2012 20:58 |  #1

So if you read my post in the talk section, I picked up a Celestron AstroMaster 114EQ the other day, and then today I ordered the adapters to mount my 350D. Being the ever impatient one, I played around a little tonight.

This image is handheld looking through the 20mm eyepiece, with my nifty fifty. ISO 800, f/1.8, 1/50. A little tweaking in LR/PS, cropped out the square (as it was soft in upper right and showed the edge of the eyepiece), and this is what I ended up with. How did I do? Oh, and I'm not really sure what % the crop ends up, but I think it's a 50% crop.

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Oct 24, 2012 03:13 |  #2
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Looks pretty good to me...:D

One, and a crop, from tonight...

Usually use the 100-400 on 7D hand held, but I decided to get some extra reach with the 2x converter (have to use live view to focus), so put it on the tripod and used a remote shutter...

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7D MarkII l 50 1.8 STM l15-85 IS USM l 100-400 IS L l 2x converter l 580EX II l Wireless remote l A computer l Some software l A vehicle to get me around...;)

  
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Oct 24, 2012 09:55 |  #3

both these are nice, those 2nd ones posted are fantastic for handheld




  
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Oct 24, 2012 11:36 |  #4

rick_reno wrote in post #15163018 (external link)
both these are nice, those 2nd ones posted are fantastic for handheld

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Oct 24, 2012 17:33 |  #5

Cool. I finally got a half decent one recently...

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300mm with 2.0x handheld.... :-)

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Oct 25, 2012 02:19 as a reply to  @ Geejay's post |  #6
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I hate to tell you guys...but, your moons are all up the wrong way...:p


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Oct 25, 2012 04:35 |  #7

STIC wrote in post #15166588 (external link)
I hate to tell you guys...but, your moons are all up the wrong way...:p

Shhh, they don't know any better.:D




  
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Oct 25, 2012 11:03 |  #8

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I hate to tell you guys...but, your moons are all up the wrong way...:p

Sorry, didn't mention I was doing a handstand while taking the photo. Didn't want to be thought of as a show-off...:p


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Nov 01, 2012 00:16 |  #9

Ok, so I got my T-mount and adapter, and took some practice shots of Mr Moon. To some degree, I like the other shot better (the one handheld through the eyepiece). I think that I'm not getting the magnification I could. I tried Jupiter, but got some pretty poor results, although I did capture 3 of her (his?) moons. Will a Barlow lens help?

This is not cropped, and original size is U/L'd on flickr -

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Nov 02, 2012 04:37 |  #10

Your Digiscoping image is far better than your direct image.
I am not sure why but I do see this paradoxical effect commonly where higher quality set up yields worse image...


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Nov 02, 2012 15:27 |  #11

I felt that way too. The T-mount adapter I have has no lens/magnification. Could that be the issue? Should I go ahead an invest in a Barlow lens? And should I get a 2x or a 3x?


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Nov 02, 2012 20:27 |  #12

Theoretically, higher the magnification, lower the transmitted light, more distortion and worse image, but you do agree with me that logic don't work here. Still I recommend 2x if you have a good glass like 8 inch or so but 3x with lower set up. Seems it is the final magnification that makes the final word not the quality as even my 100-400, stacked with 1.4x and 2x TC, yields far less impressive that the first image here in display and then my very cheap lunar meade image on a telescope, gives a far better image.
Seems math is not working here...


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Nov 03, 2012 17:20 |  #13

KirkS518 wrote in post #15193281 (external link)
Ok, so I got my T-mount and adapter, and took some practice shots of Mr Moon. To some degree, I like the other shot better (the one handheld through the eyepiece). I think that I'm not getting the magnification I could. I tried Jupiter, but got some pretty poor results, although I did capture 3 of her (his?) moons. Will a Barlow lens help?

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this is a tad over exposed and you caught the light shining directly onto the moon so you wont see as much shadow detail. Also the 100-400L is a fluorite lens with CA treatment which will produce a much nicer image than a cheap reflector. Reflectors do no produce chromatic aberrations because they are a mirror however cheaply ground parabolas that are common in cheap mirrors tend to produce a lower quality image. One thing I learned the other night was that you can slightly adjust focus and focus stack the moon which is pretty cool. If you want to do planetary imaging you need to shoot a video through the telescope of jupiter and then compile each video frame and stack the results. It will still be the size of a pea on your image but you can stack and crop the results.


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Nov 03, 2012 17:24 |  #14

Also I have found that switching your canon to monochrome for moon shots manages the colors a little better.


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Nov 10, 2012 00:51 as a reply to  @ calypsob's post |  #15

Ok. So I'm (finally) looking into a Barlow lens, and I think I'm going to go with this Meade from Adorama (external link). For the price it has very good reviews, and price is a concern.

My question is, I have this T-adapter (external link), and a T mount. Will that be what I need for my 2nd attempt?

And calypsob - great idea on focus adjust and stack. That pic of the moon was what the moon was the night the t-adapter came in, and was more of just a test. Of course, after that, there have been too many clouds to do much!


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