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Oct 21, 2012 18:42 |  #31

Wow, I've never seen such a heated discussion about tax.

Frank, you are banging your head against the wall - the desire to avoid paying taxes is too ingrained to be changed by appeals to morality. It's in a similar camp to speeding or 'minor' traffic offences - most people just don't see it as a crime (or a problem).

BTW, what is the 'form to email' facility that you mention?

I pay my fair share of tax (in my mind, more than my fair share, but that's another whinge).

lannes wrote in post #15147345 (external link)
Actually you could be charged GST and fined for not declaring the items if they exceeded your duty free limit

lannes, do you happen to know if returnees (to Australia) with items of higher value than the GST-free limit are charged GST on the whole value or the overlimit amount?

Oh, and OP, Australia is definitely not the cheapest place to buy Canon lenses.


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Oct 21, 2012 20:23 |  #32

Isn't there a tax exemption when you bring stuff purchased abroad home after a trip? Here in Canada they recently increased it - I think now it's 200$ for a day trip, something like 800$ for a week and so on.


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Oct 25, 2012 04:41 |  #33

dodgyexposure wrote in post #15151327 (external link)
Wow, I've never seen such a heated discussion about tax.

Frank, you are banging your head against the wall - the desire to avoid paying taxes is too ingrained to be changed by appeals to morality. It's in a similar camp to speeding or 'minor' traffic offences - most people just don't see it as a crime (or a problem).

BTW, what is the 'form to email' facility that you mention?

I pay my fair share of tax (in my mind, more than my fair share, but that's another whinge).

lannes, do you happen to know if returnees (to Australia) with items of higher value than the GST-free limit are charged GST on the whole value or the overlimit amount?

Oh, and OP, Australia is definitely not the cheapest place to buy Canon lenses.

In Australia if you were to be charged GST(highly unlikely) you would be charged on the whole amount. Customs officials also take into account how many people you are travelling with. If you're with a group of 4 and the other 3 didn't have anything to pay GST on they would allow you $4000.

I know this as a few years back I purchased a new snow board and a heap of gear before a Queenstown trip, claimed my 10% GST at the airport before I left and they quizzed me about it on the way back, let me keep it as I was travelling with a group of 10 people.




  
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Oct 25, 2012 05:01 |  #34

SvP_Evo wrote in post #15146458 (external link)
So in Germany they double dip on taxes? If you pay taxes on the original purchase at the place/country of purchase why would Germany think they were entitled to tax the item again?

If I move to Germany will I be taxed on all the furniture and clothing I bring with me since I didn't buy it in Germany?

You will not be taxed on those.
If you are travelling aboard, you can import to the European Union goods without paying taxes, when the value is max 430 euros (by fly or boat, other transports 300 euros). If the value of the item exceeds that you have to go through the customs using the red line and pay. If you go using the green/blue line, you make yourself guilty to the tax fraud.
Everyone must decide not to or to take the risk to get punished. :cool:

NB! Importing goods between EU countries is taxfree (you pay tax, when buying).


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Oct 25, 2012 07:07 |  #35

Back to the original question, personally I find that buying gear in the US gives the best prices on balance. I'm sure you can haggle your way to a better price in Hong Kong but to me that's not worth the effort not the challenge with repairs and the uncertainty with the provenance of the item.


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Oct 25, 2012 07:38 |  #36

the ethics police are out today.. I buy tons of stuff when out of USA, never declare anything more than a few t-shirts. Besides, ever travel and they ask you 4-5 times until you give them the No sir, I bought nothing.. have a great day sir.. 9 out of 10 could give two sweet pigs what you bought. They look for money and drugs


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Oct 25, 2012 09:25 |  #37

I am from Hong Kong, and I can assure that Hong Kong does not have the cheapest lens prices.
USA does, just what for big discounts which regularly pops up.
Regular prices in HK might be cheaper, but they rarely if ever offer substantial discounts.


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Oct 25, 2012 12:04 |  #38

That's kinda weird how everyone's saying USA is the cheapest..

For example Adorama is selling the 70-300L grey import at $1380...but this other site (DWI 70-300L (external link)) is selling it for $1200. While DWI is an Australian site, I know they sell their products as grey imports from HK but it is consistently cheaper than anything I've ever found in the US

Unless HK goods in Aus is actually cheaper than when you actually physically buy it in HK?




  
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Oct 25, 2012 18:02 |  #39

zhengf2 wrote in post #15168191 (external link)
That's kinda weird how everyone's saying USA is the cheapest..

For example Adorama is selling the 70-300L grey import at $1380...but this other site (DWI 70-300L (external link)) is selling it for $1200. While DWI is an Australian site, I know they sell their products as grey imports from HK but it is consistently cheaper than anything I've ever found in the US

Unless HK goods in Aus is actually cheaper than when you actually physically buy it in HK?

The direct importers to Australia (DWI, Camera Paradise etc.) are shipping directly from warehouses, and (AFAIK) have no retail shopfront presence in Hong Kong. It is quite possible that their prices are cheaper than you can get retail in HK.


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Oct 26, 2012 07:01 |  #40

where i am, as long as it's not commercial quantity, it's exempt :) i.e. 1 pc of each kind

back on topic.

I'm not up to date on HKG prices, but i'd say our local online grey market is about equal or just a tiny bit more expensive, you'll have to wait a few days though because they import the items from HKG among other countries.


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Oct 26, 2012 07:28 |  #41

If HK doesn't have the cheapest lens, where is then?

Check out http://www.price.com.h​k/ (external link), use google translate Chinese into whatever languages you like.

For example, the price for Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM in HK is here:
http://www.price.com.h​k/product.php?p=132160 (external link)

The cheapest grey import in HK (Citiwide Technologies Ltd.) is HK$48490 = US$6256.52, B&H is US$6799:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_EF_300mm_f_2_​8L_IS.html (external link)

The cheapest Official Import (Photo Scientific / 攝影科學) in HK is HK$51000 = US$6580.39, B&H is US$7249!
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_EF_300mm_f_2_​8L_IS.html (external link)

Guys, time to stop talking but Xmas shopping ;)


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Oct 26, 2012 07:47 |  #42

Here in Indonesia the canon lens quite cheap.. I'm quite lucky live in here because the price is relatively cheap.

You might check www.jpckemang.com (external link), its not an online store. You have to go there to buy anything from them.

I bought TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II for only IDR 16.450.000 (exchange rate 1 USD = IDR 9.800, so its only USD 1.678) Compare to BH (external link) its USD 2200 (curently on discount $200, so the price 2000)

Here.. the mighty EF 300 f/2.8 IS II sell for only for IDR 57.615.000 (USD 5879)

Not only lenses, even canon 5D3 body sell only USD 3035 (negotiable)

And some camera store ini here might sell lower than jpckemang.com and some store even offer you with 0% instalment for 12 months with certain credit card like citibank :D


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Oct 26, 2012 12:21 |  #43

x_tan wrote in post #15171237 (external link)
If HK doesn't have the cheapest lens, where is then?

Check out http://www.price.com.h​k/ (external link), use google translate Chinese into whatever languages you like.

For example, the price for Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM in HK is here:
http://www.price.com.h​k/product.php?p=132160 (external link)

The cheapest grey import in HK (Citiwide Technologies Ltd.) is HK$48490 = US$6256.52, B&H is US$6799:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_EF_300mm_f_2_​8L_IS.html (external link)

The cheapest Official Import (Photo Scientific / 攝影科學) in HK is HK$51000 = US$6580.39, B&H is US$7249!
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2_EF_300mm_f_2_​8L_IS.html (external link)

Guys, time to stop talking but Xmas shopping ;)

That's my theory:

HK regular prices cheaper than regular prices elsewhere
USA discount prices cheaper than discount prices elsewhere (which includes HK)


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Oct 26, 2012 12:37 |  #44

so i guess when you buy stuff online you willingly pay those taxes too when you file?


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Oct 26, 2012 12:43 as a reply to  @ HoT.Shek's post |  #45

My experience as a traveller is that the US on average has the lowest prices. Sometimes there are exceptions off course.

Totally off topic:
I live in one of the countries with the highest taxes in the world:
income taxes up to 52%
sales tax: 21%
tax on gasoline: 150% (or more)
tax on cars: around 30% + 21% sales tax = around 51% (seriously: about half of the amount I pay for the car is tax)
And the list goes on and on...

Since my government is ripping me off all the time (and since it is in the lawbooks this robbery is "legal"), I don't mind ripping off the government from time to time.
Just about everybody I know tries to rip off the government here :) (and that includes doctors and lawyers)


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