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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM

 
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Oct 24, 2012 22:21 as a reply to  @ post 15166019 |  #496

70mm, wide open for each lens (f/28 or f/4 depending), center frame, 200% crops:
70-300L:

IMAGE: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8081997216_7d1e2af269_o.jpg
24-70 2.8 II:
IMAGE: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8327/8082002857_bd58157188_o.jpg
Tamron 28-75 2.8:
IMAGE: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8056/8081996868_a90d1a8fb7_o.jpg

save the images and then flip between, notice differences in micro-contrast, how black or white the fine details are and crisp

The center frame 70mm f/2.8 micro-contrast of the 24-70 II is the best I have seen from any lens at 70mm wide open (!) (especially on one copy) and even the worst copy I saw at 70mm f/2.8 center frame was still at least as good as the 70-200 f/4 IS at 70mm f/4 although a little bit worse than the 70-300L at 70mm f/4 center frame. The far outer 1/8th of the frame at 70mm does tend to be softer with the 24-70 II than on the 70-200 lenses and the 70-300L.



  
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Oct 24, 2012 22:21 as a reply to  @ wombatHorror's post |  #497

24mm, f/8, center frame 100% crop:
http://farm9.staticfli​ckr.com …65921466_a2c7de​b837_o.jpg (external link)




  
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Oct 24, 2012 22:21 |  #498

These two shots look identical in quality.


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Oct 24, 2012 22:25 as a reply to  @ wombatHorror's post |  #499

more 24mm, f/8, complete image samples:
http://farm9.staticfli​ckr.com …37417052_570610​1698_o.jpg (external link)
http://farm9.staticfli​ckr.com …72868487_04c178​2f98_o.jpg (external link)
http://farm9.staticfli​ckr.com …04076420_b4af6a​ce0e_o.jpg (external link)

24mm, f/11, complete image sample:
http://farm9.staticfli​ckr.com …80859646_10b351​fbce_o.jpg (external link)




  
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Oct 24, 2012 22:26 |  #500

AbPho wrote in post #15166036 (external link)
These two shots look identical in quality.

Yeah, just about. :D I can finally swap my 24 1.4 II for the flexibility of a zoom. Now and then I will miss f/1.4, but I mostly used it stopped down so I will gain much more from my swap to the zoom (obviously many use it a lot near f/1.4 and will still need the prime).

Also, the 24-70 II has even less LoCA than the 24 1.4 II!




  
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Oct 24, 2012 23:57 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #501

Picked up my copy of the 24-70 II yesterday. Had a great deal for Australia - Ted's Cameras have a 10% sale on all Canon gear 24-26 October and the local store had a copy in stock. Here is one of my first test shots...

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5d Mark III, 16-35 II, 24-70 II, 50 f/1.4, 70-200 f/4 IS || Fujifilm X100s

  
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Oct 25, 2012 09:22 |  #502

wombatHorror wrote in post #15165856 (external link)
Which is fine, but don't toss around nonsense about how all lenses perform the same at f/8 and the only point is test at f/2.8, nonsense.

Show me where I said that "all lenses perform the same at f/8"




  
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Oct 25, 2012 09:45 as a reply to  @ Kronie's post |  #503

Mendenhall Glacier w/ 5D3 and 24-70 II


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Oct 25, 2012 23:55 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #504

I decided to try it on a tripod, mirror lockup and cable release.

70mm

http://i33.photobucket​.com …s/d74/Zenon1/4S​7A9090.jpg (external link)

100% crop

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Oct 26, 2012 01:12 |  #505

Kronie wrote in post #15167512 (external link)
Show me where I said that "all lenses perform the same at f/8"

Well maybe you have not, but many others have. I've seen it plenty of times. Why would a landscape shooter care about lenses, everything is the same at f/8.

I figured you were implying it too with your we need to see f/4 examples why would anyone get this mainly for landscapes, but I guess not. But I still don't get your point about why a primarily landscape shooter would not care about this lens.




  
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Oct 26, 2012 04:44 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #506

Mine arrived yesterday and this is from my test shots.


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Oct 26, 2012 06:53 |  #507

wombatHorror wrote in post #15170693 (external link)
Well maybe you have not, but many others have. I've seen it plenty of times. Why would a landscape shooter care about lenses, everything is the same at f/8.

I figured you were implying it too with your we need to see f/4 examples why would anyone get this mainly for landscapes, but I guess not. But I still don't get your point about why a primarily landscape shooter would not care about this lens.

Regarding sharpness, sure...IMHO most modern Canon lenses perform basically the same @ F/8. You might find a varince here and there zoomed in at 100% but for real world applications, a 16x24 print, or web viewing you probably wont be able to tell the difference. Where you see the difference is in the picture is the color reproduction, contrast, flare and distortion.

I also wanted to see 2.8 examples, not F/4 because while I use the 24-70 as a landscape lens I will also use it wide open quite a bit and I wanted to see how it performed. The start of this thread was pretty weak for a lens thread....no offense to the initial image posters but a lot of dark living rooms, at 5.6 with a shutter speed slightly too low....

The reason why a photographer that shoots just (or primarily) landscapes may not need this lens is that your not benefiting from what this lens does best, shoots at 2.8. If your just going to sit you camera on a tripod and shoot @ f/11, ISO 200, 90% of the time then why pay the premium and lug around the extra weight?

I dont think your going to see the difference in the final images between the 24-105, or the 17-40 VS the 24-70 or the 16-35...stopped down....




  
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Oct 26, 2012 17:40 |  #508

Kronie wrote in post #15171166 (external link)
Regarding sharpness, sure...IMHO most modern Canon lenses perform basically the same @ F/8. You might find a varince here and there zoomed in at 100% but for real world applications, a 16x24 print, or web viewing you probably wont be able to tell the difference. Where you see the difference is in the picture is the color reproduction, contrast, flare and distortion.

I also wanted to see 2.8 examples, not F/4 because while I use the 24-70 as a landscape lens I will also use it wide open quite a bit and I wanted to see how it performed. The start of this thread was pretty weak for a lens thread....no offense to the initial image posters but a lot of dark living rooms, at 5.6 with a shutter speed slightly too low....

The reason why a photographer that shoots just (or primarily) landscapes may not need this lens is that your not benefiting from what this lens does best, shoots at 2.8. If your just going to sit you camera on a tripod and shoot @ f/11, ISO 200, 90% of the time then why pay the premium and lug around the extra weight?

I dont think your going to see the difference in the final images between the 24-105, or the 17-40 VS the 24-70 or the 16-35...stopped down....

See, now you did say it.

And yes I have noticed a rather big difference at 24mm f/8-f/10 between this and the 24 1.4 II and 24 TSE compared to say a 24-105 or 24 2.8 non-IS or 17-40 on FF.

What this lens does best is BOTH wide open center frame AND managing to deliver crisp edge to edge in a zoom at the wider end on FF stopped down.

I am a bit troubled by the copy to copy variation, every single copy performs differently. One may be insanely sharp 70mm f/2.8 center frame but have a blurry lower left corner compared to another that is not as crisp at longer end wide open but have more even corners and another be intermediate at f/2.8 but have the bottom super crisp corners but the top part have the DOF moved forward compared comapred to anotehr where the left side has the DOF moves forward compared to the others, etc. All that said, they are still all very good overall despite that, but at $2300 you sort of don't want easily noticeable differences where you can tell what shot came from what copy. I don't want to make too much of it, but I am a little surprised that I can notice differences between every copy without too much trouble. I read one guy tried 7 copies at once and found one of the seven that did every last aspect 100% perfectly, dead even corners, DOF placement, superb f/2.8 at both ends, etc. But OTOH, even where one copy has a little more trouble it is still always at least a little better than say a tamron 28-75 or 24-105 and all the other places it is much better so it's not end of the world, but....




  
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Oct 26, 2012 18:58 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #509

First walk about with the 24-70II. Hurricane Sandy coming so weather was bad; cloudy,rain,wind. Tried to get varied light conditions. I like this lens!
f/8

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Oct 27, 2012 12:50 as a reply to  @ post 15175613 |  #510

In this focal length IS does not make much difference. For tele lenses, sure IS helps.. But for standard zoom range IS probably only helps in video recording.. For photography you don't need it, if you have averagely stable hands.

Edit: I think the person above me deleted their comment. I am not talking to myself lol


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