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Oct 28, 2012 19:17 |  #1

Ok so I picked up an Einstein and have been using my PWIII triggers for sometime.
Now would it be worth it to go from the PW Plus III to the cyber commander system or just stick with what I have? My only gripe with the PW's is that I hate having it dangle from the cord. And the plus to the PW's is also that I can use the Einstein along with a speedlite if needed.
Your opinions and comments are greatly appreciated.


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Oct 28, 2012 19:40 |  #2

If you feel the need to remotely adjust the Einstein or have several saved setups then I suggest both. Use the cyber commander to adjust the Einstein as needed and use the PWIII as the trigger and you will still be able to use your speedlites. Keep the Cyber Commander on a lanyard around your neck. The light meter function of the Cyber Commander can also be useful to dial in the speedlites as well.


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Oct 28, 2012 20:30 |  #3

Easy. Cyber Commander.

You can still use speedlites with your Einstein if you switch to CyberSyncs...


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Oct 28, 2012 20:53 |  #4

Oneyedjack - thanks- I actually would get one over the other and not necessarily both but you make a great point nonetheless.

V35skyline - If i'm correct I would need the CSRB+ to be able to use on other flashes and strobes?


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Oct 28, 2012 21:30 |  #5

You only need csrb+ for Alien Bee or White Lightning strobes. If its just for speedlite triggering just get csrb and save a little.


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Oct 28, 2012 22:29 |  #6

^gotcha. And thanks for that clarification.


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Oct 29, 2012 07:00 |  #7

The ideal setup (IMO):

(1) Cyber Commander on a lanyard for controlling E640 remotely
(1) CST on camera to trigger lights
(x) CSRBs for each non-Paul C Buff light (e.g. speedlites)


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Oct 29, 2012 07:54 |  #8

If you want to stay with PW, you could go with this http://www.pocketwizar​d.com …mitter_receiver​/powermc2/ (external link) and a TT1.


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Oct 29, 2012 08:39 as a reply to  @ gromeo's post |  #9

The PW MC-2 is a actually a very cost effective way to go, compared to Alein Bee with AC-9 + trigger . The MC-2 plugs right into Einstein and is reciever for Flex TT5 or Mini TT1

Although you have PWIII right now, the MiniTT1 as a trigger with MC-2 is insanely usefull. I never though the automatic power tracking and remote light adjustment would be so handy .

I ended up selling my Plus IIIs to go this route...no regrets




  
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Oct 29, 2012 11:14 |  #10

V35Skyline - that sounds like an ideal and low cost setup right there. Now how does the CSRB behave with yongnuo flashes? Anyone ever experience issues with firing?

Gromeo - I thought about that setup first before I thought about the cyber commander but for the price of both pieces I'll be losing 1 transceiver and having to add a flex TT5 for my speedlight for more money.

trg42 - yes like I said that seems like an ideal setup and will end up costing me more money to get the MiniTT1, MC-2 and a Flex TT5 for my speedlight. I'll see if I can find any of them used and see what that'll run me.


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Oct 29, 2012 11:52 |  #11

CSRBs have been reliable for me. Never a missed flash when connected to speedlites whether Canon 580EX or YN560s.

The MC2 is a very nice solution if you need to include Einstein with PW triggers. If I recall, they can be set to fire with the PWIII, although the mini firing them and PW IIIs is probably a better approach.

All that said, if you have Einsteins, you really should consider the CC. It offers so much more control. It really is the only way to use Einsteins on a job. :-)


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Oct 29, 2012 12:27 |  #12

You can use the mc2 on the eisteins, with a flex Tt5 or mini tt1 to fire your strobes. If you want adjust the power you can add an ac3 zone controller and adjust the power of the einsteins that way. Although its not as nice being able to see the power levels it is an option.

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Oct 29, 2012 12:35 |  #13

If you go with the cybersyncs always go with the B (or B+ ) version of whatever receiver you buy. A set of AA's lasts forever and its more versatile than being stuck with the plugin version.




  
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Oct 29, 2012 12:35 |  #14

triton3k wrote in post #15182443 (external link)
V35Skyline - that sounds like an ideal and low cost setup right there. Now how does the CSRB behave with yongnuo flashes? Anyone ever experience issues with firing?

Gromeo - I thought about that setup first before I thought about the cyber commander but for the price of both pieces I'll be losing 1 transceiver and having to add a flex TT5 for my speedlight for more money.

trg42 - yes like I said that seems like an ideal setup and will end up costing me more money to get the MiniTT1, MC-2 and a Flex TT5 for my speedlight. I'll see if I can find any of them used and see what that'll run me.

CSRBs themselves have been excellent. I use them with YN560s all the time. The point of failure is the PC connection. But there are workarounds for that.


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Oct 29, 2012 12:40 |  #15

I have AB's and the Cyber Commander as well as the two receivers for the AB's and a third receiver for my 580EXII. I find the CC can be a little tempermental. While having the ability to remotely change the power settings on the AB's is nice, I hardly have used it. In MOST situations, it is just as easy to use the sliders on the strobes. 90% of the time I am using the 1/8" plug on the AB's and the RJ-11 sits disconnected. I would rather have the PW set up as well as the module for my Sekonic 358 instead of the CC set up.




  
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