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Oct 26, 2012 12:09 |  #16

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Hey, with my first home computer, 16 years ago, working through a dial-up modem, 3-4 KB/sec was usual. If I could nurse it up to 6 that was flying.

Oh god, downloading a 10mb file at 4.5kb/s, the memories! :cry:
No such thing as download managers or resume functionality or even BitTorrent and other chunk-based transfer systems, you just clicked that link and prayed the download finished before the modem gave out, which it did like 50 times a day.

My first computer didn't have internet access - and it wouldn't even boot up unless you put in some black floppy thingie.

Ok, now that's too old, like the computers we had at school old. My first computer was a smoking 266mhz Pentium II with 32mb ram (later upgraded to 128mb), 4mb graphics accelerator, all running Windows 95 (later 98) on a 4.4GB HDD, I didn't even know what to do with all that space! Much later I upgraded to a massive 20GB HDD that I never did come close to filling up.

The original price paid was, I think, $1,700 in 1996 dollars, that's $2,500 today.


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Oct 28, 2012 02:25 |  #17

Colors look great (d800). HIgh ISO is also great, about the same as lr4/acr7 which is very good. Colorssss ahhh...will think 'bout buying it, grumbles.

I do NOT like the workflow though I don't want something else to try to manage my file structure, so hafta use sessions which are clunky lol...though maybe thers another way i dont rly know it at all yet.


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Oct 28, 2012 03:34 |  #18

Ehh, sessions are a little old-fashioned, but not that bad if you're a low-volume shooter. This is kind of old, but might help: http://www.luminous-landscape.com …ials/c1_lr_work​flow.shtml (external link)

Edit: Ok, so after some tinkering and trying the new engine on old photos, there is definitely a perceptible difference, but actually more on the side of tonality and color rather than detail, at least on shots taken with the 5D2. More usable dynamic range, the shadow/highlight sliders are actually, really, honest to god usable now and there's less noise too, at least it seems like it.

I dug around for the most horribly over-exposed photo in my inventory and managed to dig up this:

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The older version of C1 didn't do much here...

Shots taken with an IQ180 were already bonkers to begin with, C17 made them even more bonkers, but I won't show them, it's work-related ;)

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Oct 29, 2012 16:06 |  #19

Hmm, I get these checkerboard-like patterns in fine detail:

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Oct 30, 2012 19:19 |  #20

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #15177595 (external link)
I dug around for the most horribly over-exposed photo in my inventory and managed to dig up this:

WOW that's amazing!! Don't see myself spending $300, but at least they give you 60 days to try it instead of only 30. Just downloaded it.

If you use Firefox, get Download Them All. Only took me about 2 minutes to download it.


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Oct 31, 2012 08:53 |  #21

$299? Ha, I'll stick with Lightroom.


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Oct 31, 2012 09:44 |  #22

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$299? Ha, I'll stick with Lightroom.

Suit yourself... Some of use have spent tens of thousands on our photography, so what's $300 on something we feel will make our work better? For me the price isn't even part of the equation as I'm simply too used to C1 now and don't want to have to deal with other apps.


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Oct 31, 2012 12:09 |  #23

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #15190389 (external link)
Some of use have spent tens of thousands on our photography, so what's $300 on something we feel will make our work better?

That's an excellent point. For those of us that already own a C1 license it is an upgrade price so it is even less of an issue. Many RAW converters excel in certain areas and I know several photographers that keep current on different software packages to simply have legal access for that one or two things that they really like about the application.


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Oct 31, 2012 12:22 |  #24

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #15190389 (external link)
Suit yourself... Some of use have spent tens of thousands on our photography, so what's $300 on something we feel will make our work better? For me the price isn't even part of the equation as I'm simply too used to C1 now and don't want to have to deal with other apps.

I'm too heavily invested with Photoshop for $699 and LR 3 for $299 and LR4 for $79. Add Nik Software plug ins for $299, I'm done with software.

Doesn't mean I won't give it a "trial" run. How does the software work with Nik plug ins?


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Oct 31, 2012 18:35 |  #25

Razeus wrote in post #15191077 (external link)
I'm too heavily invested with Photoshop for $699 and LR 3 for $299 and LR4 for $79. Add Nik Software plug ins for $299, I'm done with software.

Doesn't mean I won't give it a "trial" run. How does the software work with Nik plug ins?

+1

Eventually you reach the point of diminishing returns, software is no different than hardware in that regard. I'm sure the best Lightroom guru could produce the same results as the best CaptureOne guru, etc. I say pick a tool and learn to use it well. I'd imagine that very few of us use any of these tools to their fullest potential.


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Oct 31, 2012 18:44 |  #26

Razeus wrote in post #15191077 (external link)
I'm too heavily invested with Photoshop for $699 and LR 3 for $299 and LR4 for $79. Add Nik Software plug ins for $299, I'm done with software.

Doesn't mean I won't give it a "trial" run. How does the software work with Nik plug ins?

i agree.

any marginal increase in IQ isn't gonna be worth it to me, in terms of $ or time already sunk.


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Nov 01, 2012 00:46 |  #27

Razeus wrote in post #15191077 (external link)
I'm too heavily invested with Photoshop for $699 and LR 3 for $299 and LR4 for $79. Add Nik Software plug ins for $299, I'm done with software.

Doesn't mean I won't give it a "trial" run. How does the software work with Nik plug ins?

C1 was practically made for Photoshop, the files it processes are extremely resilient to any further editing you can throw at it, if you output as 16-bit tiff. Nik plugins stay in Photoshop, which is okay in my workflow.


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Nov 01, 2012 12:40 |  #28

Razeus wrote in post #15191077 (external link)
I'm too heavily invested with Photoshop for $699 and LR 3 for $299 and LR4 for $79. Add Nik Software plug ins for $299, I'm done with software.

Doesn't mean I won't give it a "trial" run. How does the software work with Nik plug ins?

Totally agree. Between my CS6, LR4, Nik + Totaly Rad (RadLab + RetouchPro) plugins.

Its much like when you adopt either Canon or Nikon and make the investments in lenses, there is generally no turning back! :lol:


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Nov 01, 2012 12:58 |  #29

328iGuy wrote in post #15195123 (external link)
Totally agree. Between my CS6, LR4, Nik + Totaly Rad (RadLab + RetouchPro) plugins.

Its much like when you adopt either Canon or Nikon and make the investments in lenses, there is generally no turning back! :lol:

Plus when you try to extended your upgrade, Adobe wants to screw you and say that they won't let you upgrade to CS7 from CS5 or some nonsense like that. Upgrade pricing should be upgrade pricing. Period.


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Nov 01, 2012 13:03 |  #30

Razeus wrote in post #15195182 (external link)
Plus when you try to extended your upgrade, Adobe wants to screw you and say that they won't let you upgrade to CS7 from CS5 or some nonsense like that. Upgrade pricing should be upgrade pricing. Period.

Agreed!


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