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1DX DXO Mark Out - Scores Higher than Nikon D4

 
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Oct 13, 2012 00:25 |  #31

Sensor fabrication has never been Nikon's forte - their strength is in making bodies. Until the Exmor came along, they were behind on every count sensor-wise - the 5D2 sensor beat the D3/D700 sensor in most respects, with the D700 being competitive mainly because it had a great body, while the 5D2 was little more than a great sensor in a budget box.

At the same time, Sony is great at making sensors, but not so great at making bodies.

Hence, it's an obvious partnership.




  
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Oct 13, 2012 00:35 |  #32

KenjiS wrote in post #15115463 (external link)
And if you knew me you'd also know i generally do not say things about my own work, if anything, im usually harder on it, primarily because anytime i have any confidence someone comes along and decides to tear me a new one about it -_-

You're right, that group does have some great shots in it

I do like your work quite well KenjiS; it's quite strong. :) And I agree with the point I think you were making: that if cameras with a superior sensors were really a huge difference-maker in image quality, then people with D7000s should have photos that are leaps and bounds better than those who shoot with a 7D. And that's just not the case. And in that regard your photos serve as a very nice case in point. :)


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Oct 13, 2012 00:45 |  #33

Shadowblade wrote in post #15115828 (external link)
Sensor fabrication has never been Nikon's forte - their strength is in making bodies. Until the Exmor came along, they were behind on every count sensor-wise - the 5D2 sensor beat the D3/D700 sensor in most respects, with the D700 being competitive mainly because it had a great body, while the 5D2 was little more than a great sensor in a budget box.

At the same time, Sony is great at making sensors, but not so great at making bodies.

Hence, it's an obvious partnership.

Speaking of Sony, did you see the latest rumor? That Sony is working on a 50MP DSLR? http://www.petapixel.c​om …st-a-50-megapixel-sensor/ (external link)

If that rumor has any substance it's great news in this regard: more pressure on Canon to pony up that 46.1 MP sensor we keep hearing about.


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Oct 13, 2012 00:54 |  #34

David Arbogast wrote in post #15115862 (external link)
I do like your work quite well KenjiS; it's quite strong. :) And I agree with the point I think you were making: that if cameras with a superior sensors were really a huge difference-maker in image quality, then people with D7000s should have photos that are leaps and bounds better than those who shoot with a 7D. And that's just not the case. And in that regard your photos serve as a very nice case in point. :)

No problem, im sorry if i sounded pissy, it just never EVER fails that i say that i think im pretty good at this stuff and then someone will criticize my work.. Im not the best.. I think i need to change up what i shoot, I think if i tried some of the shots i did when i first started now id get some really dramatic results...

My want of a FF DSLR was more to have the option to creatively use lenses like the 28mm f/1.8 for a unique and different perspective in some situations (Wide lens with a wide aperture) than the IQ of my 7D being insufficient


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Oct 13, 2012 01:19 |  #35

KenjiS wrote in post #15115937 (external link)
No problem, im sorry if i sounded pissy, it just never EVER fails that i say that i think im pretty good at this stuff and then someone will criticize my work.

I think it failed this time...'cause nobody has criticized your work. And if you perceived my words as a criticism of your work, then you've read me all wrong. :)


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Oct 13, 2012 01:22 |  #36

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I think it failed this time...'cause nobody has criticized your work. And if you perceived my words as a criticism of your work, then you've read me all wrong. :)

Probubly did, Sorry bout that.. long day!


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Oct 13, 2012 02:41 |  #37

David Arbogast wrote in post #15115903 (external link)
Speaking of Sony, did you see the latest rumor? That Sony is working on a 50MP DSLR? http://www.petapixel.c​om …st-a-50-megapixel-sensor/ (external link)

If that rumor has any substance it's great news in this regard: more pressure on Canon to pony up that 46.1 MP sensor we keep hearing about.

Not surprising at all.

They've been working at that sort of pixel density for a while now, in their crop-sensor cameras.




  
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Oct 13, 2012 05:20 |  #38

David Arbogast wrote in post #15115903 (external link)
Speaking of Sony, did you see the latest rumor? That Sony is working on a 50MP DSLR? http://www.petapixel.c​om …st-a-50-megapixel-sensor/ (external link)

If that rumor has any substance it's great news in this regard: more pressure on Canon to pony up that 46.1 MP sensor we keep hearing about.

Hehe! The D4X! :D




  
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Oct 13, 2012 12:20 |  #39

Shadowblade wrote in post #15115828 (external link)
... the 5D2 sensor beat the D3/D700 sensor in most respects, with the D700 being competitive mainly because it had a great body, while the 5D2 was little more than a great sensor in a budget box.

sorry but, in what respect ?
High ISO ? I don't think so
DR ? neither

you can't compare a 22mpx sensor to a 12mpx sensor

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Oct 13, 2012 13:59 |  #40

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sorry but, in what respect ?
High ISO ? I don't think so
DR ? neither

you can't compare a 22mpx sensor to a 12mpx sensor

Nik

It beat the Nikon D700 sensor in the sense that high-ISO performance and DR were roughly equivalent, but the Canon had 75% more pixels while maintaining this performance.




  
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Oct 14, 2012 02:56 |  #41

According to this site, which has tested both sensors (and not just a post to CanonRumours, with no data appearing yet on the DXO site):

http://home.comcast.ne​t …s/PDR.htm#EOS%2​01D%20X,D4 (external link)

But low-ISO DR is rarely an issue for the sports/action photographers who would consider the D4 or 1Dx anyway.




  
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Oct 31, 2012 10:30 |  #42

The real DXOmark scores are out:

Rumored / Actual

DxO - 90 / 82
DR - 12.8 / 11.8
Color Depth - 24.9 / 23.8
ISO - 3296 / 2786


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Oct 31, 2012 10:46 |  #43

lol yep, 'bout what I figured.


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Oct 31, 2012 11:25 |  #44

996gt2 wrote in post #15190568 (external link)
The real DXOmark scores are out:

Rumored / Actual

DxO - 90 / 82
DR - 12.8 / 11.8
Color Depth - 24.9 / 23.8
ISO - 3296 / 2786

For the 1Dx and D4 action cameras, the rest of the camera matters much more than the sensor anyway (except for ISO for certain applications).

The 1Dx beats the D4 in most other features.

And, if I were mostly shooting wildlife with long telephotos and cropping, or shooting landscapes/studio, I wouldn't pick either of them anyway.




  
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Nov 02, 2012 10:02 |  #45

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