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mjmackinnon
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Oct 30, 2012 21:25 |  #1

Right now I have a Manfroto 055XPROB tripod, and put on a Benro J1 ballhead. I find that there is still some creep when using a larger lens such as my 70-200 and 100-400 lens.

I am in the process of buying a Benro Travel Angel C2692TB1 carbon fiber tripod/mono pod so that I don't have the weight to lug with the 055 but I'd still like to get a better ball head for the 055.

I am thinking that I need a bigger ball but really don't have the cash after the tripod purchase for a RRS or Markins. I remember several years back there being a slew of posts from people buying larger ballheads off ebay that they really liked.

I am wondering if anyone can suggest a good make/brand to look for.


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Oct 30, 2012 21:31 |  #2

Check out Vanguard. Excellent quality for the price.


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Oct 30, 2012 22:01 |  #3

Are you using the camera mount or lens mount for the tripod?


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Oct 30, 2012 22:04 |  #4

huntersdad wrote in post #15188871 (external link)
Check out Vanguard. Excellent quality for the price.

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Incredible quality with very low cost. No creep whatsoever.


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Oct 30, 2012 22:32 |  #5

Markins, Really Right Stuff, or Arca-Swiss.

Make the switch :)


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Oct 31, 2012 01:28 |  #6

sunwayfoto.. nice design (although it's kind of imitating) well made, relatively cheap.
But trustworthy :)


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Oct 31, 2012 06:58 |  #7

saintz wrote in post #15188960 (external link)
Are you using the camera mount or lens mount for the tripod?

I have tried it both ways. The 100-400 has the factory Canon lens mount, the 70-200 being a f/4 lens, I bought the mount off ebay.

I am slowly wrapping my head around spending more money on camera equipment, like I have gone from a $60 tripod, to a $180 and now to a $360 carbon. But part of me is still finding it hard to wrap my thoughts around spending that $400 on just the ball head.


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Oct 31, 2012 08:17 |  #8

Sounds familiar. Read this link:By Thom. (external link) I thought the same thing when I started. I couldn't believe how much a tripod was, or how much a good lens cost. Now I am an advocate of spending the money to start. I have a Gitzo with a RRS head now and that setup is wonderful, incredible quality, holds rock solid, and it just feels good.


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Oct 31, 2012 08:22 |  #9

mjmackinnon wrote in post #15188851 (external link)
I am in the process of buying a Benro Travel Angel C2692TB1 carbon fiber tripod/mono pod so that I don't have the weight to lug with the 055 but I'd still like to get a better ball head for the 055.

First try out the B1 ballhead that comes with your new tripod kit. If you want the legs of this tripod to fold back parallel to the center column then you need a ballhead with a max outside diameter of 50mm like the Markins Q3T. If you want a head with a bigger ball then the folded package will be larger in diameter and might be awkward to carry.


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Oct 31, 2012 10:48 |  #10

peter_n wrote in post #15190168 (external link)
First try out the B1 ballhead that comes with your new tripod kit. If you want the legs of this tripod to fold back parallel to the center column then you need a ballhead with a max outside diameter of 50mm like the Markins Q3T. If you want a head with a bigger ball then the folded package will be larger in diameter and might be awkward to carry.

I think I might have been confusing with my want's and needs.

I'm not looking to get a ballhead bigger than 50mm. I don't even know if I need a ballhead larger than 44mm. When I said my 055, I was referring to my Manfrotto 055ProB tripod that I am not planning to get rid of. It's a great tripod, just heavy as hell. I love it for it's height, and that you can get the camera to just about any angle with the center post that can go horizontal. Right now for that tripod, I have a Benro J1 that has a 36mm ball and is supposed to be 20kg load capacity. I am thinking that getting a 44mm ball and 30kg load capacity would be a worth while investment. It's just that Its hard to justify the $300~400 price tag.

I can live with what I have for a while and save up if getting a RRS or a Markins is really the only true choice to solve my creep issue.. but if a cheaper solution that is just as good is availible, then I have no need for brand envy and will get the alternative.


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Oct 31, 2012 10:54 |  #11

What's your budget? I can help you out with Benro/Induro if you want.


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Oct 31, 2012 12:56 |  #12

Judsonzhao wrote in post #15189495 (external link)
sunwayfoto.. nice design (although it's kind of imitating) well made, relatively cheap.
But trustworthy :)

one more vote for Sunway foto ballhead. I have a DB-44 (44mm) ballhead on my 055XPROB tripod, and a FB-36(36mm) ballhead on my Feisol 3442 tripod.

very good made and relatively low price.

edit: my Feisol is 3442, not 3401. I was trying to buy 3401 but it was out-of-stock and so I got 3442 instead.


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Oct 31, 2012 17:00 |  #13

vsg28 wrote in post #15190665 (external link)
What's your budget? I can help you out with Benro/Induro if you want.

I have about $130 now. The more it costs, the longer it will take to save up the additional funds for it. I will need to decide which is better, the Benro J1 or B1 that comes with the travel angel. I will look to sell the one that doesn't work best and that funds can go towards the replacement for the Manfrotto 055Prob.


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Oct 31, 2012 17:43 |  #14

I have 2 ball heads.
1. Triopo RS3 which is tiny (270 grams) yet holds a 600 F4 with ease - though people seem to struggle to believe this!
2. A Sirui K40X which is overkill for your needs! However it is a very nice head. Have a look at this (smaller) one which is still probably bigger than you need: http://siruicanada.com …cts/heads/kx-series/k30x/ (external link). The K20X would probably be fine but there is no harm in a little extra rigidity. Note with these Sirui's the friction and locking is combined on one control so you have to tighten it fairly firmly, this is not a problem - just different from most other heads. This is just my impression as the RS3 needs only the lightest touch for my 300 F2.8 and only ligh/moderate pressure for the 600.
There is a Sirui stockist in Quebec city - have a look on their website.


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Oct 31, 2012 18:27 |  #15

mjmackinnon wrote in post #15192033 (external link)
I have about $130 now. The more it costs, the longer it will take to save up the additional funds for it. I will need to decide which is better, the Benro J1 or B1 that comes with the travel angel. I will look to sell the one that doesn't work best and that funds can go towards the replacement for the Manfrotto 055Prob.

The B1 is much better than the J1 in my opinion.


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