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Nov 03, 2012 21:59 |  #9226

^^^ Try that with a 5D2. :p


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Nov 03, 2012 22:00 |  #9227

K6AZ wrote in post #15203920 (external link)
^^^ Try that with a 5D2. :p

The 5D 3 can't do this either. I borrowed one from a friend and he converted to Nikon. ;)




  
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Nov 03, 2012 22:04 |  #9228

That's what I have heard. A couple of weeks ago I posted a before and after shot in the front yard that was about as eye-popping as far as pulling detail out of shadows. This was a major factor for me since I get a lot of shots like this outdoors and the 5D2 was frustrating in this regard.


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Nov 03, 2012 22:07 |  #9229

yeah, for landscape shooting, the new sony sensor is really a game changer. It really is. d800e is simply the best landscape camera available right now, when you consider everything (image quality, portability, lens availability, etc).


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Nov 03, 2012 22:11 |  #9230

^^Hehe! Now match up that sensor with some wide angle Zeiss! ;)




  
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Nov 03, 2012 22:25 |  #9231

I liked the feel of the 5DII but in fact it took me less than a day to embrace the d800.




  
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Nov 03, 2012 22:28 |  #9232

kevindar wrote in post #15203954 (external link)
yeah, for landscape shooting, the new sony sensor is really a game changer. It really is. d800e is simply the best landscape camera available right now, when you consider everything (image quality, portability, lens availability, etc).

Kevin, you'll be impressed with the low light performance as well.
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I liked the feel of the 5DII but in fact it took me less than a day to embrace the d800.

It's hard going back. ;)




  
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Nov 03, 2012 22:31 |  #9233

Those examples of DR of the Nikons is really impressive! What ISO do you guys normally shoot at to get such great results? What would be the max ISO you would shoot ar before finding a lot of noise developing? My 5D2 is not so forgiving in extreme shadow lifts, above ISO 400 it gets a bit tricky. Keep in mind I dont shoot those in between ISOs, so it goes 100,200,400,800 etc for me. If that matters.


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Nov 03, 2012 22:43 |  #9234

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15204026 (external link)
Those examples of DR of the Nikons is really impressive! What ISO do you guys normally shoot at to get such great results? What would be the max ISO you would shoot ar before finding a lot of noise developing? My 5D2 is not so forgiving in extreme shadow lifts, above ISO 400 it gets a bit tricky. Keep in mind I dont shoot those in between ISOs, so it goes 100,200,400,800 etc for me. If that matters.

In good daylight I shoot the D800 at 400, there is just no noise at that level. When I'm shooting birds or indoors without flash 800-3200. I get great results from 400-3200 and rarely go outside that range.


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Nov 03, 2012 22:44 |  #9235

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15204026 (external link)
Those examples of DR of the Nikons is really impressive! What ISO do you guys normally shoot at to get such great results? What would be the max ISO you would shoot ar before finding a lot of noise developing? My 5D2 is not so forgiving in extreme shadow lifts, above ISO 400 it gets a bit tricky. Keep in mind I dont shoot those in between ISOs, so it goes 100,200,400,800 etc for me. If that matters.

Here's some samples I've posted before with the D600.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=15088493&pos​tcount=464

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=15089798&pos​tcount=465

ISO samples SOOC. Pay close attention to the last shot at 25600. ;)
https://photography-on-the.net …?p=15081274&pos​tcount=421

If you really want my honest opinion, I'll take Image Quality over Ergonomics any day. ;)




  
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Nov 03, 2012 22:50 |  #9236

K6AZ wrote in post #15204065 (external link)
In good daylight I shoot the D800 at 400, there is just no noise at that level. When I'm shooting birds or indoors without flash 800-3200. I get great results from 400-3200 and rarely go outside that range.

So you can get nice, relatively clean lifted shadows from 400-3200? Thats very encouraging :eek: I guess to be more clear, like in the shot where the shadows were brought back from the sunset, what ISO would be max before seeing ISO develop in those shadow areas when being recovered. I would love to do a test between my 5D2 and D600/D800(E) and see just what the differences are ;) Obviously I expect great results from the Nikons, but want to get a hands on feel for it.

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Here's some samples I've posted before with the D600.

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=15088493&pos​tcount=464

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=15089798&pos​tcount=465

ISO samples SOOC. Pay close attention to the last shot at 25600. ;)
https://photography-on-the.net …?p=15081274&pos​tcount=421

If you really want my honest opinion, I'll take Image Quality over Ergonomics any day. ;)

Not helping man :lol: The way I see it, everything about the D800 is perfect for me, just the grip is too small for my hand (just doesn't sit comfortably). If I want to do a full swap now from what I have, I still have to put about $2600 up to get a D800 + 24-70G. That would cover 99% of what I shoot, and would never have to change a lens :lol: I plan to rent the D800 + 24-70G combo to get a real feel for it and see how I would like it. The D800E is would I would ideally go for :p


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Nov 03, 2012 23:03 |  #9237

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15204090 (external link)
So you can get nice, relatively clean lifted shadows from 400-3200? Thats very encouraging :eek: I guess to be more clear, like in the shot where the shadows were brought back from the sunset, what ISO would be max before seeing ISO develop in those shadow areas when being recovered. I would love to do a test between my 5D2 and D600/D800(E) and see just what the differences are ;) Obviously I expect great results from the Nikons, but want to get a hands on feel for it.

Most of the time my shots that need detail pulled out of shadows are ISO 400, it's usually because I'm outdoors in daylight, I have had good luck pulling shadows out of ISO 1600-3200 shots as well, noise isn't much of a problem on the D800 up to 3200 and if pulling detail out of shadows shows some noise it is easily dealt with in ACR.


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Nov 03, 2012 23:18 |  #9238

K6AZ wrote in post #15204126 (external link)
Most of the time my shots that need detail pulled out of shadows are ISO 400, it's usually because I'm outdoors in daylight, I have had good luck pulling shadows out of ISO 1600-3200 shots as well, noise isn't much of a problem on the D800 up to 3200 and if pulling detail out of shadows shows some noise it is easily dealt with in ACR.

Perfect, the answer I was looking for :) Thanks!

And Julian, those D600 sample shots are amazing, any chance of the SOOC high ISO shots that are not resized? Want to do some pixel peeping :p


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Nov 03, 2012 23:20 |  #9239

FWIW I do believe the D600 is a little better for noise too so that might be your ticket.


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Nov 03, 2012 23:30 |  #9240

K6AZ wrote in post #15204185 (external link)
FWIW I do believe the D600 is a little better for noise too so that might be your ticket.

I honestly prefer to save a little more and go for the D800/E. The D600 is just way too small of a camera for me to use it as a primary camera.

To those who have bought the D800E over the regular version, would you say its worth spending $300 more to get E model? I never shoot in a studio, pretty much 100% outside during pro shoots, or just messing around at home. When out on a shoot, usually always on a tripod, but not always.


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