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Trade 24-105 for 135L?

 
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Nov 04, 2012 07:40 |  #1

I recently upgraded my 40D to a 5DII. I mainly shoot portraits and candids of my family and ocassionally friends. On my 40D my go-to lens was my 24-105 as my 50 was a little long indoors and my 70-200 was a little long in general. On my 5DII, my 50 is now the perfect length indoors and my 70-200 is great for portraits and pretty much everything outdoors. At some point I want to get a 135L and I am wondering if it wouldn't make sense to just sell the 24-105 and buy it. I would use it for the great bokeh for outdoor portraits as well as indoor events at my kids school. I do also have an old 28-105 that I could use if I really need something wider. It has a tiny scratch on the front element which I figured would probably affect resale enough that it wasn't worth selling.

Thoughts? Has anyone else made a similar move and regretted it? I know I am the best one to make this decision as I know what I shoot but I just can't decide so I need some outside input. :) The one place I can think of that I would likely miss the focal range is Disneyworld, but I only go there once every few years and after taking it last time I'm thinking next time I may just take the 50 or even get a 40 pancake. I could also rent it for a week if I was really worried.

I should probably add that if I don't sell the 24-105, the 135L will probably not be in my budget for some time.


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Nov 04, 2012 07:48 |  #2

I have both and love both, the 135 is my go to lens for portraits. But that said, the 24-105 is most often mounted on my camera because of its versatility. In making that swap your widest lens would be the 50, which would be unacceptable to me. As much as I love the 135 I dont know that I could give up my most versatile walkaround lens for it. I just reread your OP and had ignored the 28-105 but given its condition I'm not certain I would give up the 24-105.




  
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Nov 04, 2012 08:01 |  #3

I wouldn't trade my 24-105 for love nor money.
I had planned on buying the 135L just a week ago, when rumor had it that the Ver.ll was coming out.
Decided to wait just a bit longer.
One way or another, I will buy 135L within the next three months.




  
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Nov 04, 2012 08:20 |  #4

Give that 24-105 another chance on FF, I find that on my crop body it's not very exciting, but on full frame it's incredible. Super versatile, and the background blur is equivalent to a 15-65 f2.5 on crop! I used it for a wedding for the first time last night, 50% of shots were with the 24-105, 8% with 70-200, 20% with 85 1.4, 15% with 35 f2 and the last few with my helios 44.


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Nov 04, 2012 12:52 |  #5

I have both lenses. The 24-105L is probably my most used lens, as it is so versatile. If you put a gun to my head and said I had to get rid of one of these two lenses, I would have to give up the 135L.


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Nov 04, 2012 13:24 |  #6

So I take it that's a "no"? :)

I have to say, this is by and far the most consistent response to any opinion-based question I've ever asked, even if the response I've gotten isn't really what I wanted to hear. I really thought I would have had closer to a 50/50 response.

Before I give up, though, let me explain my reasoning just a little further. With my 40D, I always used my 24-105. Indoors, it was the only lens I had that really worked, but I also always needed to use bounce flash to get properly exposed pictures. With the 5DII, between the lack of the crop factor and the higher ISO capabilities, the 50 f/1.4 is a great indoor option, and means I don't necessarily need to use flash anymore. So what would you guys do there, use the flash and the 24-105, or use the 50 without the flash, or use the 50 with the flash?

Outside, unless I'm shooting landscapes (which I pretty much never do) or have some scenery behind my subject I want to include (think Cinderalla's castle at Disneyworld), I think I'd rather have my 70-200 on as I love that it is super-sharp wide-open and it gives me twice the range on the long end vs. the 24-105, which is typically where I'm going to need it. With the 40D, 70mm was just a little long at times but I haven't really had that problem with the 5DII.

So with that said, when do I use the 24-105? If I had the 135L, I know I would use it for portraits and I know I would use it when I needed a low-light lens for indoor events at church & school (though admittedly my kids aren't QUITE at that age yet, but very close).

If you guys still think I'm better off with the 24-105, I'll trust your opinions, since that's what I came here for to begin with. Thanks again!


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Nov 04, 2012 13:32 |  #7

what about swapping your 24-105, and 70-200f4IS for a 70-200f2.8 IS...


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Nov 04, 2012 15:29 |  #8
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DreDaze wrote in post #15206061 (external link)
what about swapping your 24-105, and 70-200f4IS for a 70-200f2.8 IS...

This.

I recently sold my 24-105 as well. Reason being I already have 35 and 50 to cover indoor/full body portrait.

OP the lens you are considering I have owned them all before. I sold both 135L and f4IS to get the f2.8mkII and couldn't be happier...

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Nov 04, 2012 17:00 |  #9

Use 50mm f1.4 for indoors, group shots etc. 135 for outdoors. 24-105mm is boring compared to the other two. I am moving now to 35L and 135L as my two lens solution.


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Nov 04, 2012 17:02 |  #10

DreDaze wrote in post #15206061 (external link)
what about swapping your 24-105, and 70-200f4IS for a 70-200f2.8 IS...

Only if it's the Mark II.

Then you don't need the 135L. I honestly haven't touched mine much since getting the MkII.


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Nov 04, 2012 17:08 |  #11

My issue with the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II is the weight. I tried one out at a local camera store before I bought my f/4 and felt it was too heavy for my use. I know plenty of people have no issue with it and who knows, I might get used to it too, but I'm not sure I am willing to make that move. I think for me the f/4 and 135L combo is a better fit, I just don't know if I should give up the 24-105 to get it.


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Nov 04, 2012 17:09 |  #12

Funny. I specifically traded my 24-105 for the 135. Don't regret it a single bit. The 135 is a much, much better lens, IMO.


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Nov 04, 2012 17:12 |  #13

munzzzzzzz wrote in post #15206797 (external link)
My issue with the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II is the weight. I tried one out at a local camera store before I bought my f/4 and felt it was too heavy for my use. I know plenty of people have no issue with it and who knows, I might get used to it too, but I'm not sure I am willing to make that move. I think for me the f/4 and 135L combo is a better fit, I just don't know if I should give up the 24-105 to get it.

The only thing is the 24-105 is a great vacation/walkaround lens if you can take only one somewhere.


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Nov 04, 2012 17:15 |  #14

munzzzzzzz wrote in post #15206041 (external link)
So I take it that's a "no"? :)

With the 5DII, between the lack of the crop factor and the higher ISO capabilities, the 50 f/1.4 is a great indoor option, and means I don't necessarily need to use flash anymore. So what would you guys do there, use the flash and the 24-105, or use the 50 without the flash, or use the 50 with the flash?

Just because you have enough light doent mean its good light. Not that having a fast prime doesnt improve your options with a flash, its easier to balance ambient with a fast prime. But i'm not a big fan of the fifty on a full frame camera enough to depend on it for that much work. I dont know what indoor work you plan to do with the fifty, but I still think I want the general purpose zoom as the baseline of my lens kit.




  
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Nov 04, 2012 17:21 |  #15

A week ago, I acquired a used 70-200 IS L Mark I. Last night I put it and the 5DII on a tripod and shot an oil painting to check its resolution, and to compare it to my other lenses. (ML and a remote, focused with both AF and LV for comparison).

Then did the same with the 24-105. What a disappointment when I viewed the results of the 24-105 - it's not nearly as sharp as the 70-200. I re-shot the same picture with the 24-105 again with the same results.

Then I tried my 30D + EFS 17-55; the results were better than the 5DII + 24-105, and on par with the 70-200 + 5DII.

I have been using the 24-105 with the 30D since Sept 2006, and with the 5DII for three years and must admit that this was a shock to me.

It was such a useful lens on both bodies, but if I can get a sharper image with a 30D + 17-55, there isn't much point in keeping it.

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