Would the price of 60D drop right away when 70D is released?

I think I just need to do some arm workouts instead of complaining, I'm going to want to use a zoom lens sooner or later anyways

boerewors wrote in post #15206810
Or why not consider the 650D with its much faster live view focusing speeds?

from what Ive read the 650d only has better AF in video shooting. Not live view or normal DSLR use. Do you have an article that shows focus speed is better on the 650d than the 60d we both own and use?

jhayesvw wrote in post #15207696
from what Ive read the 650d only has better AF in video shooting. Not live view or normal DSLR use. Do you have an article that shows focus speed is better on the 650d than the 60d we both own and use?

No i dont. I read on DPReview that they both share the same AF modules and that the 650D has faster live view AF. I may have mis read something but it makes sense that live view AF would be better with a digic 5 prosessor and live view and video mode are pretty much the same thing anyway

Naraly wrote in post #15207561
I just looked up that lens in google, and I got prices of $500-$600, that seems quite pricey to me. I was hoping to get something around $100. And I was considering the T4i alongside this one. It was really stressful trying to decide, and I just opted for the 60D because I like that it has two dials and the top screen, it just seemed more convenient. And I can get it refurbished for cheaper so that helps a lot.

The lens you looked at may have been the VC version. The non-VC version which i have cost $300 and is credited as having better image quality. But seeing that you are looking for a $100 lens, there are not many options. I think the 50 1.8 is the only option actually! The 18-135 is much higher than $100 already. I recommend getting a constant wide aperture zoom because your manual mode will not be manual between focal lengths and variable aperture zoom lenses would need a flash to go with them and they suffer image softness issues.
The top LCD screen and dials is also the same reason i went for the 60D. I cant imagine diving into the menus when i need to move quickly.

boerewors wrote in post #15207918
The lens you looked at may have been the VC version. The non-VC version which i have cost $300 and is credited as having better image quality. But seeing that you are looking for a $100 lens, there are not many options. I think the 50 1.8 is the only option actually! The 18-135 is much higher than $100 already. I recommend getting a constant wide aperture zoom because your manual mode will not be manual between focal lengths and variable aperture zoom lenses would need a flash to go with them and they suffer image softness issues.
The top LCD screen and dials is also the same reason i went for the 60D. I cant imagine diving into the menus when i need to move quickly.

Are those new or used prices? I think im going to start looking at the classifieds here and on Craigslist for a used lens, hopefully there's something close to my price range. Hm very interesting, I never really gave much thought to difference between constant and variable aperture, but after your comment I did some research to learn more about what it really means. I'll probably get one with a constant aperture now (silly me that before my research, I though it ment I could ONLY shoot at that specific f#).
So would you say that as my first beginner lens I should get a zoom lens, or would a prime be more appropriate? I know it also really depends on each photographer and the types of subjects they choose, but what about like me in that I'm really just shooting in the dark with lenses because i don't know yet wha I will want or what I'm looking for in a lens. A 50mm 1.8 sounds appealing to me though, but can I get some diversify with it or is it mainly for portrait type shots or something else?

Naraly wrote in post #15208083
Are those new or used prices? I think im going to start looking at the classifieds here and on Craigslist for a used lens, hopefully there's something close to my price range. Hm very interesting, I never really gave much thought to difference between constant and variable aperture, but after your comment I did some research to learn more about what it really means. I'll probably get one with a constant aperture now (silly me that before my research, I though it ment I could ONLY shoot at that specific f#).
So would you say that as my first beginner lens I should get a zoom lens, or would a prime be more appropriate? I know it also really depends on each photographer and the types of subjects they choose, but what about like me in that I'm really just shooting in the dark with lenses because i don't know yet wha I will want or what I'm looking for in a lens. A 50mm 1.8 sounds appealing to me though, but can I get some diversify with it or is it mainly for portrait type shots or something else?

i spent $300 for a new tamron 17-50 f2.8 non VC lens. if you are a beginner and dont intend to make a living out of photography, you should really go cheap on the equipment until you really know what it is that you want. Buying old 2nd hand stuff means you can sell it off without any loss. I would say go 2nd hand on an old 40D (to get the dials and top screen) and get 2nd hand cheap 3rd party super zoom lens. Learn the ropes, figure out what focal lengths you sit mostly at, figure out if cheap soft lenses that have inconsistent and slow autofocus even bother you to begin with before looking for better optics. Once you figured that out, sell off your toy of a lens and get a new lens based on your findings through your own experience.
Photography is very addicting as you will soon find out. An overwhelming urge to buy a speedlight has not yet hit you

The eyes of EOS - Canon's detailed description of their lens program and technology. The downloadable version is a bit outdated, so recent lenses are missing, but a lot of the technology related information is still current.
Use this link and open the chapter about EF lens technology, for example.

The 18-135 mm IS lens is much cheaper when bought in a 'kit'. The price for a refurbed body only 60D is $800: http://shop.usa.canon.​com …uct_10051_10051​_276387_-1
The price for the 'kit' with the 18-135 IS is $1039: http://shop.usa.canon.​com …uct_10051_10051​_276389_-1
Of course, subtract another 20% off these prices for CLP.

Naraly wrote in post #15204084
Well I tried the camera at the store with and without the lens, and to my hands it seemed MUCH lighter without the lens. But now I'm remembering that the guy at Best Buy also took the battery off.. so that probably factored in a bit too. It wasn't a big deal having the lens, it wasn't heavy in the way that I couldn't support it in my hand, but it did feel like double the weight to me.. I was looking to get a suggestion of a lens like a 50mm for instance seems pretty small and light. I'm just a beginner so at this point i'll take any suggestions for any type of lens, I wouldn't mind not having zoom and just walking around. If 18-55mm really is the best for my first lens then I won't mind the weight, just asking for some suggestions, maybe there's a lighter one I haven't seen

You don't realize what you are asking for. Holding DSLR without a lens gives you only the feel of the body its self. For every lens you put on the camera you change how the lens fits your hand, and how the cameras balance has changed. Take any long zoom lens that will move out of the lens body, it will change how the camera feels as it is zoomed out. This is because the center of gravity changes as you zoom out. Add a prime to your camera, like a long "L" lens and see how the camera feels, it will be front heavy. Add a EF 40mm STM, pancake lens and see the difference.

As for the price drop, I'm waiting for the 7D II to be released, just to see what that camera brings to the table, as far as improvements to the existing functions and additions. It would be nice to see better low light processing, Wi Fi, faster focus, and more focus points. In other words, make the 7D II as the 6D but with a crop sensor. Keep both the 7D classic, and 7D II current models. I would think that Canon should do about the same to the 60D and make a upgrade, and a 60D II with better download capabilities, and lower light ability, faster focus, and better HD movie mode.

Best free advice I've seen printed in a long time.