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Nov 06, 2012 12:05 |  #5791

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I'm thinking about getting the 24-105 as a walk-around as well, but I do love the 40 on my 5D. Also taking into consideration the Canon 17-40 and the Sigma 24-70. So confused!

What about the new 24-70 f4 IS?


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Nov 06, 2012 12:09 |  #5792

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What about the new 24-70 f4 IS?

If it were a few hundred bucks cheaper I'd consider it. I wouldn't want to spend over $1200 on any one item at this point and I'd actually prefer to keep things under $1000.


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Nov 06, 2012 12:10 |  #5793

The new 24-70 f4 IS is priced about 50% higher than the 24-105 f4 IS.

I find it difficult to justify that price, unless it outperforms in some way that we are as yet unaware.


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Nov 06, 2012 12:24 |  #5794

^^It *should* perform better at the wide end since it is not a wide to telephoto zoom like the 24-105 where compromises were made, and the macro ability at the long end is intriguing. I agree that it is overpriced, but we haven't seen any performance tests yet so everything is just assumption until we do.


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Nov 06, 2012 12:28 |  #5795

I say don't buy anything til you see tests! Until then snap snap snap! I can't wait for Import Face Off this Sunday in Ennis, TX!


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Nov 06, 2012 12:33 as a reply to  @ Vixen89's post |  #5796

Hey guys trying to decide on my next lens..I pretty much shoot anything like to shoot cars. Here is my current list

18-135
50mm 1.8

Here are the lens I'm considering

Canon 17-55 ( super expensive tho)
Canon 70-200 F4 ( had it before returned it didn't think I would use it as much)
Tokina 11-16
Canon 10-22 ( had it got overwhelmed over price returned it)

I guess I kinda feel like one day I may go full frame maybe I should get L lens but I'm trying to get that out of my head n buy for what I currently have., also I want my next lens to be sharp.
Advice greatly appreciated


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Nov 06, 2012 12:43 |  #5797

I ended up choosing between F4 IS or F2.8 non IS due to $ constraint. Help me decide.

As for the 24-70 i would rather go with the tammy with VC.


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Nov 06, 2012 12:57 |  #5798

I absolutely love 24-105 on my 60D. Even on my crop body I find it wide enough for most of my needs. It is sharp wide open throughout the full zoom range and focuses very quickly. The only time it didn't suit my needs is when I was taking some pictures of the animal show outside during late evening hours and I wished it would open wider then f/4 to get me to a faster shutter speed with no flash. But now I have Sigma 30mm f/1.4 for those situations. I think 24-105 is a perfect walk-around lens even on a crop body (depending on the shooting style of course) but on a FF it is probably one of the best walk-arounds available I would think. Would not trade it for anything.


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Nov 06, 2012 13:05 |  #5799

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Hey guys trying to decide on my next lens..I pretty much shoot anything like to shoot cars. Here is my current list
18-135
50mm 1.8
Here are the lens I'm considering
Canon 17-55 ( super expensive tho)
Canon 70-200 F4 ( had it before returned it didn't think I would use it as much)
Tokina 11-16
Canon 10-22 ( had it got overwhelmed over price returned it)
I guess I kinda feel like one day I may go full frame maybe I should get L lens but I'm trying to get that out of my head n buy for what I currently have., also I want my next lens to be sharp.
Advice greatly appreciated

Cars that are moving or parked ones?
def difference there...you may need reach if they are moving.
For parked cars...the 17-55 is ultra sweet on the 60D example below. If you're looking for the UW look then the either the 10-22 or the 11-16 should work.

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Nov 06, 2012 13:09 |  #5800

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I ended up choosing between F4 IS or F2.8 non IS due to $ constraint. Help me decide.

As for the 24-70 i would rather go with the tammy with VC.

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Nov 06, 2012 13:16 |  #5801

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I absolutely love 24-105 on my 60D. Even on my crop body I find it wide enough for most of my needs. It is sharp wide open throughout the full zoom range and focuses very quickly. The only time it didn't suit my needs is when I was taking some pictures of the animal show outside during late evening hours and I wished it would open wider then f/4 to get me to a faster shutter speed with no flash. But now I have Sigma 30mm f/1.4 for those situations. I think 24-105 is a perfect walk-around lens even on a crop body (depending on the shooting style of course) but on a FF it is probably one of the best walk-arounds available I would think. Would not trade it for anything.

I am reading mixed reviews but for the most part people love it. What I'm skeptical of is the compromises made to get wide and telephoto in one zoom. Convenience factor is a + but I think I am spoiled by my specialty lenses to really enjoy just a walk-around. First world problems, eh?

IS is really tempting and would be good for video, but I really don't know how much I would actually need it... I have decided to get it a million times, only to question myself a million and one times.  :p


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Nov 06, 2012 13:27 |  #5802

Maria, how do you like your 70-200 f4? Do you feel the need for IS? How about sharpness and focus speed.


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Nov 06, 2012 13:48 |  #5803

Maria I'd love to know what compromises you are worried about as I have found the lens performs excellently all the way through the focal range and is sharp from wide open. I have printed images out to a2 and they look fantastic. I think sometimes we read so many reviews about these lenses saying one thing or another that we end up thinking " ooh I must get this as its a nano bit sharper or bokeh is so much better "
At the end of the day it's a tool, it's how you use it that matters. I bet if you had three prints all the same taken with 24-104 24-70. And say the 17-55 you could not tell which was which.
Hope this doesn't sound like a rant it's just my own opinion lol


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Nov 06, 2012 13:50 |  #5804

I have really noticed the effect of IS on the 300mm, especially with the converter, but I also have the 17-55 EF-S for crop and I've never really noticed the need for IS. I am sure folks will chime in the why they need it though :)

Bottom line for me is I would rather have the extra stop of light on the 24-70 than trade it for IS. YMMV


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Nov 06, 2012 13:50 |  #5805

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Maria, how do you like your 70-200 f4? Do you feel the need for IS? How about sharpness and focus speed.

I love it! I haven't felt the need for IS at all because I've used it for outdoor events/activities like sports, moving kids, the zoo, etc. The focus is very fast, and I'd say really sharp. I will probably use it for portraits if anything comes up between now and when I get my 85 calibrated but I haven't done anything official yet. Also haven't tried it on FF but I'm sure it's fantastic.

This was taken through the glass/manually focused. Quality was reduced to 60% upon export from Lightroom and of course whatever photobucket does to its pictures, and it still looks good to me.

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