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Sep 10, 2012 00:23 |  #91

He doesn't need to be an IT Specialist to run his own server, an IT specialist will be able to diagnose and fix a number of problems, on different servers, quickly and efficiently. Similar to how a photographer will be able to capture the good moments across different scenarios and be prepared and backed up etc etc,

All he needs is a small server for small traffic, if the server does have downtime, its not a big loss and he doesn't need to be able to diagnose OTHER servers. Hell the only reason you hear big woop about ISP and Network providers fighting downtime is because on any given day their server is down theres hundreds if not thousands of people trying to reach it. For a small time tog, there might be a couple clients a week.

So back to your metaphor, If a photographer misses the kiss during the wedding, OUCH.

If a server goes down for a day, on the unlikely event that your clients were trying to reach it, you bring it back up and let your clients know its back, it may have hurt their estime of you a small bit, but probably not enough to matter unless its a commercial grade client paying you up the ass at which point the whole running your own server is moot.


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Sep 10, 2012 04:17 |  #92

I think some might be under estimating the power and functionality of smugmug.

Doing that by yourself?

Full time job?


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Sep 10, 2012 09:13 |  #93

I guess to me it seems simple, IT is my day job.


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Sep 10, 2012 11:22 |  #94
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Csae wrote in post #14970261 (external link)
He doesn't need to be an IT Specialist to run his own server, an IT specialist will be able to diagnose and fix a number of problems, on different servers, quickly and efficiently. Similar to how a photographer will be able to capture the good moments across different scenarios and be prepared and backed up etc etc,

All he needs is a small server for small traffic, if the server does have downtime, its not a big loss and he doesn't need to be able to diagnose OTHER servers. Hell the only reason you hear big woop about ISP and Network providers fighting downtime is because on any given day their server is down theres hundreds if not thousands of people trying to reach it. For a small time tog, there might be a couple clients a week.

So back to your metaphor, If a photographer misses the kiss during the wedding, OUCH.

If a server goes down for a day, on the unlikely event that your clients were trying to reach it, you bring it back up and let your clients know its back, it may have hurt their estime of you a small bit, but probably not enough to matter unless its a commercial grade client paying you up the ass at which point the whole running your own server is moot.


Couple of clients??? Heheheeh... 2 to 3 clients a week? Why even bother????


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Sep 10, 2012 11:26 |  #95
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mtimber wrote in post #14970678 (external link)
I think some might be under estimating the power and functionality of smugmug.

Doing that by yourself?

Full time job?


When I am done with an event, I get about 10k+ hits a day for 2 to 3 days straight. Another 20 to 30 or so orders to fulfill with print orders and customer downloads. I can't see myself doing this on my own with little knowledge about IT and networking....:cool:


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Sep 10, 2012 12:47 |  #96

TooManyShots wrote in post #14971967 (external link)
When I am done with an event, I get about 10k+ hits a day for 2 to 3 days straight. Another 20 to 30 or so orders to fulfill with print orders and customer downloads. I can't see myself doing this on my own with little knowledge about IT and networking....:cool:

And I think when we look at Smugmug in a very narrow manner, only considering part of what the service offers, we can think it it is expensive.

But when you consider everything it can do and does do, the price comes into perspective for me...


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Sep 10, 2012 20:37 |  #97

I guess SmugMug should have paid attention to the Netflix debacle. After 4 years I'm moving my account..

They said something about giving members more... That's why you go public or get investors. You don't double prices of the members that made you. At least give members something... and Blog maybe... weak




  
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Sep 10, 2012 20:43 |  #98

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I guess it isn't for everyone. I've been with Smugmug for a long time and they are hosting hundreds of thousands of images for me. I sell a lot of prints there, and love how easily I can share and sell.

I'm grandfathered at $200/year for their pro level. I have over a TB stored on Smugmug. 1TB stored on Amazon cloud would be $500/year. Don't know what they would charge for 1.5TB.


Smugmug is still an incredibly great value despite doubling in price. I'm happy to pay it, especially since they are reinvesting it in the site.


Then I'm paying for you... or leaving because of .. lol .. I have had my account 4 years and have 25 gig uploaded. I only upload the best shots. Why not just put a cap on storage and make people that use it for every damn picture they've ever take pay more..




  
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Sep 10, 2012 20:47 |  #99

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You have yet to type something worth reading.

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Nice little argument,,,,, Thomas you're an ass and I don't even know you... Have some pride in your work.




  
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Sep 10, 2012 22:01 |  #100

myoungok wrote in post #14974310 (external link)
Then I'm paying for you... or leaving because of .. lol .. I have had my account 4 years and have 25 gig uploaded. I only upload the best shots. Why not just put a cap on storage and make people that use it for every damn picture they've ever take pay more..

They've made plenty off me through 15% commissions.

And I take a lot of pride in my work. :rolleyes:


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Nov 06, 2012 09:08 |  #101

I was granfathered in during the last increase... so my account went from $149.00 to $300.00 so I also had the option of still paying $149.00 but without being able to set pricing.So i chose that but saw that my photos were still "For sale" but at the stock, smug mug price and now i dont have the account where i can set my pricing. So... someone can buy my photos from Smuggy and smuggy gets paid but i dont?? I just made all my photos un printable till i figure out what to do next.


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Nov 06, 2012 09:16 |  #102

.... Oh dont get me wrong, I love Smuggy, they have stepped up on a couple occasions that I know of and did the right thing... one time a member who was pretty popular on their forums had died so Smuggy pledged to keep her sight up and active and the profits of any prints sold from it would go directly to her family, WITHOUT smug mug taking their cut. Another time a members equipment was stolen and he had no insurance so one of the people who worked for Smugmug on the forums offered to lend him his own personal extra (older) 1D untill the guy got back on his feet. You dont hear much if any of that kind of stuff going on anywhere else. Anyhow, back to the issue...

I just dont know why the huge increase in pricing. either go up gradualy or like someelse said, only allow so much storage per account. its like when Flicker took away the free pro accounts that ATT/Yahoo customers got with their ATT internet accounts, they gave you the choice to either pay up or loose half your storage. lol fun fun!


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Nov 06, 2012 13:45 |  #103

I'm still mulling over what I'm going to do for next year. My sales are WAY down and that ain't helping.


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Nov 06, 2012 15:11 |  #104

i believe there are a bunch of other sites to use... Smug mug was nice though, up load your photos, set the gallery and it does the rest. Maybe some new guys will come forward and pick up the ex smuggers...


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Nov 06, 2012 15:12 |  #105

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Downloading all my photos to my desktop with this app

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Seems to be working so far..

Also, used http://www.uploadjunct​ion.com (external link) to move all galleries from SM to Zen automatically..

thanks much for this info!:D


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