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better beamer vs harbor digital flash extender

 
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Nov 03, 2012 18:07 |  #1

I wanted to get everyone's opinion on this and since the bird community is who I really trust I figured it best to post this here.

I have a harbor digital flash extender
http://www.harbordigit​aldesign.com …nderconversionl​ens-1.aspx (external link)

its does the same thing as the better beamer but is far less portable. I thought about getting a better beamer as they are cheaper and more portable but I wanted something that didnt require setup or adjustment. The harbor digital seems to work very well.

Here is my issue. The harbor digital is BIG. You cant take it apart to make it smaller. So I need to find a way to carry it. I often forget it because I grab my bag that has everything else in it. I leave the extender at home.
Ive thought about getting a bigger bag but a new bag will run me $120+ easily.

So does anyone have a harbor digital extender but me? Is the better beamer finicky to set up and shoot the beam to the right place? I like how it folds flat so I could fit it in my bag Im sure.

the harbor digital one just slips on, no velcro no messing around.



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Nov 04, 2012 06:19 |  #2

Hi Jeremy

It sounds like you've got it mostly. The Beamer breaks down for
easier travel but this can make it more difficult to set up properly.
I've read where the Harbor throws out a better balanced illumination
so after more than ten years of using the Beamer I bought one to
try out on my trip to visit family in Peru. I'm down here now but
haven't had an opportunity to try it out yet - the first couple of days
are never good for more than catching up with a mountain of brothers,
uncles, aunts, and cousins. Anyway, I'll let you know what I think of
it a few days from now after trying it out.


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Nov 04, 2012 22:06 as a reply to  @ Kevin Hall's post |  #3

Thanks Kevin!
I appreciate the help. I do like how quick it is to install and it works well.
I just wish it was more easily portable. I need a little bag to hang off my backpack or a larger backpack (which I dont want to buy).



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Nov 05, 2012 20:11 |  #4

Here's an idea for you - put it in a hunting mask with a carabiner.
Light weight, cheap, and it will clip to anything you want it to.
It's what I use to hold speakers.

There's nothing wrong with things that tend to slow you down either.
It can lead to more stop and think rather than point and shoot.
You know the old joke about the two rams on the hill, yes?


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Nov 07, 2012 14:40 as a reply to  @ Kevin Hall's post |  #5

After having played with the XT at the Pantanos de Villa I would say that the output is slightly more balanced and even than the beamer, I would not call going to the beamer a performance advantage. The bulk of it is the only issue I can see and is something that I can live with myself for when I need to project a flash. One thing I never did like about the beamer is how no matter how tight you strap it on to the flash, it always ends up drooping - usually sooner rather than later.


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Nov 07, 2012 16:46 as a reply to  @ Kevin Hall's post |  #6

I agree on the drooping. That is one reason I bought the harbor digital XT.
Thanks for posting in this thread and giving your first hand
Experience with it. It helps me and will surely help others.



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Nov 07, 2012 20:00 |  #7

I bought the Harbor Digital over the BB for the sole reason that the BB seemed fiddly. And in
that regard, the HD is much nicer. I've only used the HD. And only for motocross. But, for me,
the jury is still out if it's helpful. I'll report back in the future after I use it more.




  
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Nov 07, 2012 20:04 as a reply to  @ Two's post |  #8

My guess is that it would depend on how far away you are from the motor cycles. If you are close it probably won't work while but if you are fairly far away it should work pretty well. If anyone else wants to chime in please feel free..



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Jan 02, 2014 14:38 |  #9

Can any of you provide a follow up review of this item now since you've had it for mone than 1 year? I'd like to know more on this as I came across this item. I use the BB now.

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Jan 02, 2014 16:43 |  #10

I'd like to know more about it as well. The BB is a little too harsh for my liking and it is indeed fiddly and difficult to keep aligned.


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Jan 02, 2014 17:39 |  #11

My thoughts on the Harbor Digital flash extender are the same as before.

Its fast to install. Takes a fee seconds. No alignment issues. Just slide it on.
It provides ample light just as the BB does.

My issues. Its big for storage. Takes up as much space as 2 lenses.
It can get loose on the flash after walking around for a while.
The front that holds the Fresnel lens is cheap and doesn't stay put like I would like.

It is good overall though and does its job. But here is the cool thing.

My friend has developed a new speed light system called magmod.
It uses magnets to hold speed light accessories to the flash. Its one size fits all flashes
so if you get a new bigger flash it still works.
He is developing the flash extender accessory for it now. I hope he has one soon. I have already purchased
his basic kit and am waiting for the extender and it will solve all the issues I have with the current extenders. It will be compact, sturdy, easy to install, and it will stay on.

So before you buy another product I would wait a bit. I know this sounds like I'm just trying to sell something but you guys on here know me. I honestly want everyone to have something better in their bag for for much money. Here is his website to check out the base system.



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Jan 02, 2014 17:40 |  #12

http://magnetmod.com/ (external link)



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Jan 02, 2014 19:01 |  #13

I was reading about those somewhere else. Looks like a great product. I'd be interested in something that would be multi-use like that. I could toss the various diffusers and softboxes and BB and so on.


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Jan 02, 2014 19:20 |  #14

I'll be curious to see this in action; I've stumbled across their website before and am intrigued


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Jan 02, 2014 19:51 |  #15

My buddy here in town is the inventor.. They really are cool and work awesome.
He has several larger accessories in development. I hope to be a beta tester on the extender.
The magnets seem to be safe too. He has a video of him running the magnets all over his CF and camera.

I will keep you all posted when I get more info.



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