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Nov 10, 2012 11:29 as a reply to  @ post 15229303 |  #121

That's been my experience with the M too... the quality in that form factor is just awesome. There was next to zero learning curve since it's Canon and I know Canon. The camera isn't getting in the way of me taking photos whenever wherever, even in manual. The AF was a bit slow last night when taking pictures of the kids, but no worse than any P&S I've used.


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Nov 10, 2012 22:34 |  #122

I've been trying to follow this thread, but I didn't see it posted. What's the noise comparison with a 5D II or 7D?



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Nov 11, 2012 00:32 |  #123

I think its a touch behind the 7d, enough to call it identical really.


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Nov 11, 2012 08:43 |  #124

Awesome. My sister is looking for an easy to use camera that is better than most point and shoots (is open to really good point and shoot), but still small enough and versatile. I told her to look at mirrorless cameras from Oly and Sony, but this seems to have piqued my interest for her, too.



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Nov 11, 2012 08:59 |  #125

drPheta wrote in post #15231609 (external link)
I've been trying to follow this thread, but I didn't see it posted. What's the noise comparison with a 5D II or 7D?

Noise is good to 3200.. 6400 it's starting to have alot of color noise, but detail is still there. 3200 is my limit.


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Nov 11, 2012 11:21 |  #126

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I got my EOS M yesterday. I never had a chance to play with one at a store beforehand. I love the build quality, look, and feel. The touch screen is awesome and really I didn’t have any issue with the interface as a whole

I setup my M just like my 5D2 with Manual mode, single center point AF, and back button focus. The AF speed seemed fine to me in good and bad light. It isn’t as quick as my 5D2, but I was pleasantly surprised after reading all the over the top online bashing. It may perform differently with the other AF modes, but I won't really use those very often. Of course I need more time with it to make a truly informed conclusion.

This camera is going to be a great walk-around/street camera as well as a great second/backup to my 5D2. I can’t wait to get the mount adapter and try out some of my other glass. I’m using the BlackRapid Snapr 20 for a strap/bag. The M fits pretty snug with the 22mm f/2, but it works.

I really hope the rumors of a EF-M 55mm f/1.3 are true.

Initial impression: LOVE THIS CAMERA!

How do you set back button focus? I can't see how...


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Nov 11, 2012 14:25 |  #127

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How do you set back button focus? I can't see how...

C.FnIV set to 3. Then the * button will AF/AE and a half press of the shutter does nothing.


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Nov 11, 2012 14:38 |  #128

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C.FnIV set to 3. Then the * button will AF/AE and a half press of the shutter does nothing.

That looks a bit awkward. I think my thumb would get cramp in that position


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Nov 11, 2012 15:31 as a reply to  @ CircuitR's post |  #129

This camera does not appeal to me at all: it has no viewfinder.

I'm not trying to troll, this is a serious question:
why would anyone want a camera without a viewfinder?

1. I really hate these lcd displays especially in the glare of the sun, you can't see anything on them.

2. There is no way to diopter correct an lcd. I can't focus nearby without glasses but I can see perfectly sharp in a viewfinder with diopter correction.

3. lcd's gobble battery power. Viewfinders don't.

4. With a viewfinder I can press my camera to my face adding some stability.
Holding an lcd a foot before my face is less stable and harder to frame precisely.

But I'm willing to learn: what is the appeal of this camera to some of you?


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Nov 11, 2012 15:46 |  #130

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This camera does not appeal to me at all: it has no viewfinder.

I'm not trying to troll, this is a serious question:
why would anyone want a camera without a viewfinder?

1. I really hate these lcd displays especially in the glare of the sun, you can't see anything on them.

2. There is no way to diopter correct an lcd. I can't focus nearby without glasses but I can see perfectly sharp in a viewfinder with diopter correction.

3. lcd's gobble battery power. Viewfinders don't.

4. With a viewfinder I can press my camera to my face adding some stability.
Holding an lcd a foot before my face is less stable and harder to frame precisely.

But I'm willing to learn: what is the appeal of this camera to some of you?

well I'm sure Canon did some market research before making final specs..sell numbers in the end will tell us if they made a mistake or not.

Obviously you have made it quite clear the cam is not for you, so why even ask why others like it ? Not like it's going to change your mind.


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Nov 11, 2012 16:02 |  #131

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C.FnIV set to 3. Then the * button will AF/AE and a half press of the shutter does nothing.

Thanks, found it, not exactly ergonomic..


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Nov 11, 2012 16:09 |  #132

DutchVince wrote in post #15233785 (external link)
This camera does not appeal to me at all: it has no viewfinder.

If it had a viewfinder I would probably not have bought it, due to size. Canon can't please everyone!


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Nov 11, 2012 16:12 |  #133

SPDnTRXI wrote in post #15233828 (external link)
well I'm sure Canon did some market research before making final specs..sell numbers in the end will tell us if they made a mistake or not.

Obviously you have made it quite clear the cam is not for you, so why even ask why others like it ? Not like it's going to change your mind.

I'm sure it will sell, there is a huge market: all around me I see more people looking at lcd screens (and all are complaining they can't see anything in the sun ;-)a ) than people looking through viewfinders.

But I have no use for them.


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Nov 11, 2012 16:13 |  #134

DutchVince wrote in post #15233785 (external link)
This camera does not appeal to me at all: it has no viewfinder.

I'm not trying to troll, this is a serious question:
why would anyone want a camera without a viewfinder?

1. I really hate these lcd displays especially in the glare of the sun, you can't see anything on them.

2. There is no way to diopter correct an lcd. I can't focus nearby without glasses but I can see perfectly sharp in a viewfinder with diopter correction.

3. lcd's gobble battery power. Viewfinders don't.

4. With a viewfinder I can press my camera to my face adding some stability.
Holding an lcd a foot before my face is less stable and harder to frame precisely.

But I'm willing to learn: what is the appeal of this camera to some of you?

appeal ? first of all, it takes pictures, and which even better than what you have with Iphone. Seriously, what you said are shortcomings of this EOS-M, but it is the only game in town if you want to stay with Canon or to take advantages of your L glasses.
For me, it can be used for walk-around and social gatherings. I don't like carrying the big 5d Mkii with L glasses walking around or going to parties

Here are what I think about your concerns.

1,2 : These are your specific problems, not for me or majority of people.
3 : Buy more batteries. I don't like it neither, but it is hardly deal-breaker.
4 : Don't like it too, but again this tiny thing will be used in some specific situations. It is not my only camera.

This version of EOS-M is certainly not perfect and it would not be able to function as your lone doing-verything camera. But I think I would stay with Canon and this new M system since 1) I want a small camera with interchangeable lenses, 2) don't want to complicate my life by trying and using a second- non Canon system.


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Nov 11, 2012 16:16 |  #135

Echo Johnson wrote in post #15233879 (external link)
If it had a viewfinder I would probably not have bought it, due to size. Canon can't please everyone!

Size is a good point, for that I have a Canon 400d, for a dslr it is tiny, but it still has a viewfinder :)

And Canon pleased me very much with the 7D, the best camera I ever had.


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