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Took Photos at a Masquerde event Saturday and i could use a little help....

 
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Nov 12, 2012 15:23 |  #1

please.

First, if you all dont mind, id appreciate critiques/alteration recommendations on the photos. The more constructive criticsm the better.

Im also planning on using smug mug for the first time with these images and would like to know if there's any ideal size i should resize the images too or is uploading the original files standard procedure. Also, any other info you could provide in regards to smug mug would be appreciated.

lastly, im interested in adding a company logo to the images......not sure how to do it or where to go to get it done. A link to a thread or any info on this would be much appreciated.




  
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Nov 12, 2012 15:50 |  #2

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Nov 12, 2012 15:51 |  #3

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Nov 12, 2012 16:54 |  #6

If these are for sale directly from Smugmug, then I'd upload the full sized file. That's what I do anyway.


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Nov 12, 2012 17:21 |  #7

Biffbradford wrote in post #15238098 (external link)
If these are for sale directly from Smugmug, then I'd upload the full sized file. That's what I do anyway.

thanks

how do the colors look to you? I've recently recalibrated my monitor and want to make sure im not seeing them differently then others




  
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Nov 12, 2012 18:25 |  #8
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Ummm...personally I don't see anything special with the photos you ave posted. These are a dime a dozen and I am sure there are many floating around that were shot with p&s and phone cameras. That is just my honest opinion...which you did ask for.

Just don't see any money to be made here.




  
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Nov 12, 2012 18:49 |  #9

Hogloff wrote in post #15238366 (external link)
Ummm...personally I don't see anything special with the photos you ave posted. These are a dime a dozen and I am sure there are many floating around that were shot with p&s and phone cameras. That is just my honest opinion...which you did ask for.

Just don't see any money to be made here.

its cool, im looking for candid opinions lol

thanks

what about the colors tho...my computer calibration may be off and im not able to recalibrate now.

Mind letting me know what the colors look like on ur side?




  
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Nov 12, 2012 19:23 as a reply to  @ SpongeforKnowledge's post |  #10

The reds look over saturated to me.


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Nov 12, 2012 19:44 |  #11
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The colours look ok to me ( my Monitor IS calibrated) but it looks like you were doing something like HDR. I think the effect is good as it gives the pics and " edge' and makes them look different to what people have probably seen elsewhere.

As for being nothing special, I earn a lot of money producing pics that are far less special than what is shown here. I understand from recent beratings that there seems to be a mindset here that photography for the sake of earning money and not putting the art first is a sin but some people just need to get their heads round the fact that other people may have different goals and objectives to them.

As Event pics I think you have done very well with these.
The posing is good, the props help make the shot as does the HDR look I think and I can see nothing wrong that would stop people buying the shots per se.

I don't know if this is the sort of feedback you are looking for but I would say the one HUGE thing you have missed with these pics is the benifit of the impulse buy.
Having them on a website will mean you only get a fraction of the sales you would have had you done onsite viewing and preferably printing.

I do a fair few event's like this and shoot and print onsite and let the people come up to see and buy the pics on spec. It works well and the thing everyone brings up in the cost of what you don't sell is insignificant. I spend $X on materials and sell $x worth and that's all I care about.

Onsite printing is not hard but it's not nessacary either. IF you can just present the pics on a decent size screen and take orders on the Night, That will get you a long way further tha any web sales as well. Witht he price of printers so cheap, If you were going to do these type of gigs with any regularity, you'd be mad not to buy a couple of inkers with a bulk ink system and pre print on the night.

You'd multiply your sales by 5 to 10 times no question.


From RDKirk: First, let me check the forum heading...yes, it does say "Business of Photography" and not "Hobby of Photography." Okay. So we're talking about making money, not about hobbies. By "business" I am presuming activities that pay expenses and produce a profit over the long term.

  
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Nov 12, 2012 20:06 |  #12

glumpy wrote in post #15238634 (external link)
The colours look ok to me ( my Monitor IS calibrated) but it looks like you were doing something like HDR. I think the effect is good as it gives the pics and " edge' and makes them look different to what people have probably seen elsewhere.

As for being nothing special, I earn a lot of money producing pics that are far less special than what is shown here. I understand from recent beratings that there seems to be a mindset here that photography for the sake of earning money and not putting the art first is a sin but some people just need to get their heads round the fact that other people may have different goals and objectives to them.

As Event pics I think you have done very well with these.
The posing is good, the props help make the shot as does the HDR look I think and I can see nothing wrong that would stop people buying the shots per se.

I don't know if this is the sort of feedback you are looking for but I would say the one HUGE thing you have missed with these pics is the benifit of the impulse buy.
Having them on a website will mean you only get a fraction of the sales you would have had you done onsite viewing and preferably printing.

I do a fair few event's like this and shoot and print onsite and let the people come up to see and buy the pics on spec. It works well and the thing everyone brings up in the cost of what you don't sell is insignificant. I spend $X on materials and sell $x worth and that's all I care about.

Onsite printing is not hard but it's not nessacary either. IF you can just present the pics on a decent size screen and take orders on the Night, That will get you a long way further tha any web sales as well. Witht he price of printers so cheap, If you were going to do these type of gigs with any regularity, you'd be mad not to buy a couple of inkers with a bulk ink system and pre print on the night.

You'd multiply your sales by 5 to 10 times no question.

First off, thanks alot for taking the time to write all that...i really appreciate it.

But yea, I typically do on sight printing and this venue was prime real estate....only problem....the promoter was shooting for a cashless event.

We came to middle ground and I did onsight printing (for donations) and will be putting the pics on smug mug for the people im hoping will be interested in having better versions then what we were printing on spot.

Once again, thanks alot for the time you gave me. I appreciate it




  
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Nov 12, 2012 20:07 |  #13

Dan Marchant wrote in post #15238571 (external link)
The reds look over saturated to me.

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Nov 12, 2012 20:17 |  #14

SpongeforKnowledge wrote in post #15238166 (external link)
thanks

how do the colors look to you? I've recently recalibrated my monitor and want to make sure im not seeing them differently then others

You are seeing things differently from others. Monitors differ wildly.




  
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Nov 12, 2012 20:44 |  #15

'benifit of the impulse buy'
This is where you will make some fast $$$. What I did at one event was as I sold images to clients I would have them pay up front, then send them via email a high res and mobile small size res. (FB size image).
They would get them right there that night on thier cell phone via email.. I think a lot of people out there dont care to much about getting paper prints any more.. CD , DVD & Email copies.

I had a co worker help with the imaging, PP & laptop work..

good luck..

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