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Nov 12, 2012 13:06 |  #151

krb wrote in post #15237099 (external link)
Auto magnify is a good idea but I suspect that the Canon lenses do not tell the body when the ring is being turned so it would be hard to implement.


For anybody with an EOS M or other mirrorless camera who like to use manual focus, the best solution I found on my 4/3 camera is to put the camera in B&W mode and max out the in-camera settings for contrast and sharpness. This makes it a little easier to identify what is in focus on the screen and if you shoot in Raw the settings are not permanent.

The new lenses need to report distance for the hybrid autofocus to work properly.

Good tip about contrast though!


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Nov 12, 2012 13:09 as a reply to  @ phigment's post |  #152

Well.. I guess there could be a disconnect between the manual focus ring and the distance reporting protocol, but I doubt they'd leave that info out if the distance is already reported in AF mode.


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Nov 12, 2012 16:08 as a reply to  @ phigment's post |  #153

Having the lens report the focus distance when requested by the camera is not the same thing as having the lens send an alert to the camera that the focus ring has been twisted.


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Nov 12, 2012 18:10 as a reply to  @ krb's post |  #154

Another review - international. Took up to a minute to focus. Concluded for casual user who doesn't want to carry a camcorder - otherwise look elsewhere.

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Nov 12, 2012 20:54 |  #155

I have to laugh at that minute to focus. You have to try (on purpose) to have it fail that badly and you could do the same with a 5D2.


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Nov 12, 2012 21:05 |  #156

drew wrote in post #15238851 (external link)
I have to laugh at that minute to focus. You have to try (on purpose) to have it fail that badly and you could do the same with a 5D2.

if the battery is low... the focus gets slower... what I noticed anyways...

One minute = NFW


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Nov 12, 2012 21:35 |  #157

SPDnTRXI wrote in post #15238878 (external link)
if the battery is low... the focus gets slower... what I noticed anyways...

One minute = NFW

Moving subjects in less than ideal light - like totally f. way...acquires focus but loses it...yeh way...

think kids in the house...

think kids anywhere for that matter...


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Nov 13, 2012 06:53 |  #158

drew wrote in post #15238851 (external link)
I have to laugh at that minute to focus. You have to try (on purpose) to have it fail that badly and you could do the same with a 5D2.

Indoors at ISO 1600 and above focus gets pretty slow too. And when it does lock focus on my kids, i capture them blinking. Still trying to love the camera, but at times, it does get frustrating.


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Nov 13, 2012 07:49 |  #159

There's slow and then there's a "minute to focus." I don't like hyperbole.


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Nov 13, 2012 08:40 as a reply to  @ drew's post |  #160

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm not even going to grace the idea of a "minute to focus" with a full reply.
But if someone's shooting in a situation with a duff battery, a large, slow-focusing lens and trying to track moving objects, then a glorified P&S is clearly not the right tool for the job.
If the above quoted source from "camera dude" is along those lines, the tester must hate Canon.
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This camera does not appeal to me at all: it has no viewfinder.
I'm not trying to troll, this is a serious question:
why would anyone want a camera without a viewfinder?
...//...

I agree with you in part.
But look at the M as Canon's answer to iphones and other touch-screen devices which don't have a viewfinder, take pretty good photos for a large percentage of people, and make the manufacturers a LOT of profit.

I'm hoping Canon is basically using the EOS-M as a testbed for future "pro" models.....
Then I'll get one.

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Nov 13, 2012 09:23 |  #161

drew wrote in post #15240062 (external link)
There's slow and then there's a "minute to focus." I don't like hyperbole.

The camera strengths still out weigh its weakness. Once you learn and understand the EOS-M's limitations, the more enjoyable the camera becomes. Right tool for the right job....


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Nov 13, 2012 09:43 |  #162

How quick is the camera?

for ex:

with my dSLR I can spin from M to Av to Tv, making changes to each in an instant and have it stick on the fly and snap away.

Whereas with my Nikon P7000 I have to wait for the change to stick, wait for it to focus, then I can snap one, wait, then snap another, wait ....... lol

I know the limitations of the P7000 so it doesn't bother me (too) much but if this EOS-M is on par speed wise then I'll just stick with the P7000.


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Nov 13, 2012 10:36 |  #163

danpass wrote in post #15240437 (external link)
How quick is the camera?

for ex:

with my dSLR I can spin from M to Av to Tv, making changes to each in an instant and have it stick on the fly and snap away.

Whereas with my Nikon P7000 I have to wait for the change to stick, wait for it to focus, then I can snap one, wait, then snap another, wait ....... lol

I know the limitations of the P7000 so it doesn't bother me (too) much but if this EOS-M is on par speed wise then I'll just stick with the P7000.

it's probably on par with the speed. I posted a video buried in this thread somewhere, on the AF speed as demonstrated. The AF is as fast as current gen or even a few gens back point and shoot cameras.


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Nov 13, 2012 10:50 |  #164

skygod44 wrote in post #15240186 (external link)
I agree with you in part.
But look at the M as Canon's answer to iphones and other touch-screen devices which don't have a viewfinder, take pretty good photos for a large percentage of people, and make the manufacturers a LOT of profit.

Makes sense!

But not my cup of tea :)


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Nov 14, 2012 22:20 |  #165

DutchVince wrote in post #15240634 (external link)
Makes sense!

But not my cup of tea :)

Not heard that phrase for years!
:D
But I'm actually with you....and I've tried out this first EOS-M enough now, to know Canon have made a good little camera, and can release an absolute gem soon(ish!)

THAT'S what I'm waiting for.

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