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Nov 12, 2012 09:14 as a reply to  @ post 15236246 |  #1216

I found this site a while back and found it helpful in understanding a bit more about this craft. It is not directly related to the OP subject but this info has been discussed throughout the thread and it is valuable. I did not check to see if the link has been posted elsewhere on the forum. http://www.cambridgein​colour.com/tutorials.h​tm (external link)
I hope the tutorials are helpful.

I did receive my 622's exactly one month from the day I ordered. It is the end of the High School sports season so I have no time to test the triggers other than a brief test to see if they work. And they do.




  
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Nov 12, 2012 09:15 |  #1217

Just ordered 2 of these and a second 430ex II flash, can't wait to try them out!


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Nov 12, 2012 13:34 |  #1218

I am looking at picking up 1 or 2 flashes to use with the yn622's. Thinking of getting a couple of 560II or a 565. These would be used off camera in manual mode(most of the time) for wedding receptions and photo shoots. Is it worth the extra 100-150 to have the ability to change the flash power from the camera menu? Appreciate any thoughts anyone has on this. Thanks


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Nov 12, 2012 13:42 |  #1219

squall1977 wrote in post #15237299 (external link)
I am looking at picking up 1 or 2 flashes to use with the yn622's. Thinking of getting a couple of 560II or a 565. These would be used off camera in manual mode(most of the time) for wedding receptions and photo shoots. Is it worth the extra 100-150 to have the ability to change the flash power from the camera menu? Appreciate any thoughts anyone has on this. Thanks

If you are using the 622s the only logical option, in my view, is to use speedlites that permit remote control via the camera menu and the 622s.


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Nov 12, 2012 16:34 |  #1220

Bought a yn622 and did some quick tests at home, no problem.

Went to an office for a portrait shoot, rigged my yn622c with 580exii and umbrella and the other tranciver to 5d MKIII. Did a test shoot, no flash, F * K shut everything off and on, no flash, pressed the test button, but no flash. Changed channels had both A and tryed with ABC, B, C on both. Changes also the group but no flash! Took the yn622 in the bag and used my ST-E2 and it worked without problems. Maybe I did something wrong with the cannels and groups, I was in panic.

Come home and test of yn 622, and worked!


Am I doing something wrong?
How do you solve this problem?
Have yn 622 any known problems with miss fires?




  
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Nov 12, 2012 17:57 as a reply to  @ jonas18z's post |  #1221

I just got my 2 YN 568's and 4 622c's about 5 hours ago this morning. I did some testing with both flashes and a Canon 430ex II. Everything work all the way up to 1/8000. Modelling lights firing on all 3 at the same time was pretty cool! Didn't think the Canon flash could do that. Will do some more testing and post findings/results here later. I think the recycle alert beep is going to be nice for portrait shoots when I'm guiding the subject and using a shutter release, not looking at either camera or flashes. Will also test with the t3i and Phottix stratos in piggy back, and yn 460 II manual flashes.




  
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Nov 12, 2012 20:38 |  #1222

jonas18z wrote in post #15238034 (external link)
Bought a yn622 and did some quick tests at home, no problem.

everything off and on, no flash, pressed the test button, but no flash.

Maybe I did something wrong with the cannels and groups, I was in panic.



How do you solve this problem?

Have yn 622 any known problems with miss fires?

I had a couple of problems like this in all the testing I did, but I was swapping around a lot of gear, mixed modes etc, one time the camera batteries went flat and when I put new ones in and the 622c wouldn't fire anymore.

But the solution every time has been to factory reset both the TX and RX's. It only takes a second but make sure to do them all as I forgot one once and was chasing the problem for ages.

Having said that, from your previous issues I would suspect you may have a faulty unit somewhere with an intermittent fault. If so I find thats the most frustrating thing.

I'd mark them and take note of which ones you are using to possibly narrow down if there is a faulty one. Otherwise you may need to exchange them all. Hopefully we will start to hear if others have similar issues or not.


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Nov 12, 2012 21:53 |  #1223

jonas18z wrote in post #15238034 (external link)
Bought a yn622 and did some quick tests at home, no problem.

Went to an office for a portrait shoot, rigged my yn622c with 580exii and umbrella and the other tranciver to 5d MKIII. Did a test shoot, no flash, F * K shut everything off and on, no flash, pressed the test button, but no flash. Changed channels had both A and tryed with ABC, B, C on both. Changes also the group but no flash! Took the yn622 in the bag and used my ST-E2 and it worked without problems. Maybe I did something wrong with the cannels and groups, I was in panic.

Come home and test of yn 622, and worked!


Am I doing something wrong?
How do you solve this problem?
Have yn 622 any known problems with miss fires?

Trouble shooting procedure says change only one thing at a time when trying to find the trouble in a "system" with multiple components.

Since it worked in testing and failed in production, you need to think a bit about what the differences were. As mentioned, which unit was on the camera as master. They theoretically can act as both, but it may be that when one has been acting as master it doesn't like being the receiver, or vis a versa. Thus the benefit of the soft reset.

First and easiest check is to make sure everything is properly attached and locked in place. The fact that it didn't fire with the test button implies a communications error. Once again, that implies a soft reset to see if it will clear the trouble.

It has become common knowledge that triggers are, apparently, voltage sensitive. That implies that fresh batteries to start each job is a good preventative measure.


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Nov 13, 2012 01:10 |  #1224

dmward wrote in post #15239040 (external link)
It has become common knowledge that triggers are, apparently, voltage sensitive. That implies that fresh batteries to start each job is a good preventative measure.

These triggers are designed to cut out below 2.2 volts. That means that rechargeable NiMH cells at a nominal 1.2v each, or 2.4v together, are only 0.2 volts above the threshhold. In fact, they usually charge to a higher voltage.

IMO, its safer to use alkaline batteries for this job.


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Nov 13, 2012 07:53 |  #1225

marzel wrote in post #15238265 (external link)
....I think the recycle alert beep is going to be nice...

What is this? Mine doesn't beep when it recycles. I haven't seen that in the manual for the triggers, flash, or camera (which, of course, means its probably in very large print, front and center in an area that it can't be missed). How would I turn this function on and off?




  
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Nov 13, 2012 08:08 |  #1226

I apologize. I wasn't clear with my sentence structure. The recycle beep is only on my yn-568's. It can be turned on or off by pressing and holding the LCD backlight button until it toggles the feature on or off. This feature has nothing to do with the camera or triggers, although I believe this can be toggled inside the camera via flash c.fn menus.

MedicinSC wrote in post #15240077 (external link)
What is this? Mine doesn't beep when it recycles. I haven't seen that in the manual for the triggers, flash, or camera (which, of course, means its probably in very large print, front and center in an area that it can't be missed). How would I turn this function on and off?




  
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Nov 13, 2012 16:22 |  #1227

Some people are puzzled by the three LED [GP] indicators they see on the transmitter. Here's the story.

The 622 is always a receiver.
It can have added transmitter/controller functions when driven by a camera.
It can have added functions when it is a transmitter with a flash on-top.
There are two group functions, both of which are remembered during power-down - Lighting group, and Testing group.

622 Receiver
Press [GP] to see the lighting group the unit belongs to.
Hold [GP] to change the lighting group.
Hold [Test] and [GP] to set the testing group.

622 mounted on camera
On power-up, the current lighting group will be shown for a few seconds,
The 622 is still only a Receiver. It requires a half-shutter, or the camera's External Flash Control menu to be opened to invoke the 622's transmitter functions.
Pressing [GP] will still show the receiver-mode lighting group setting.

622 running as transmitter
When the transmitter functions are invoked, the selected channel LED will wink several times.
The group LED will also wink to indicate not the lighting group but the Wireless Firing group set in the menus:
None - Wireless disabled (stand-alone mode)
A LED - Wireless enabled, Firing group A+B+C
B LED - Wireless enabled, Firing group A:B
C LED - Wireless enabled, Firing group A:B C
Pressing [GP] will still show the receiver-mode lighting group setting.

On-top flash
There is no indicator for this.
It is always A, as decreed by Canon. It is a Master Flash (with the 622 handling the Master part).
The flash's LCD will show the flash settings for All (mirroring group A)

Example:
622 set to lighting group B.
Camera previously to Wireless enabled, Firing group A+B+C
622 then mounted on camera and powered up. B will wink.
Half-shutter. A will wink as 622 now a transmitter showing current firing group.
Press [GP] and B will light briefly.

A quirk:
On a hand-held 622, set testing group to A. The on-top flash wil not fire.
Set testing group to B. The on-top flash will fire.
So, for testing purposes, the on-top flash is in the transmitter's group (B in example) and not in A!
At this point, the 622 and mounted flash is simply just another remote.
Remember to set testing group back to All (ABC).


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Nov 14, 2012 02:33 as a reply to  @ CliveyBoy's post |  #1228

Hi Clive, that's very clear and helpful.
With a setup of 2 groups (A & B), I am using three 622's (Camera and 2 speedlites). Can I then use the extra 622 I have to actually trigger the camera if I wanted to. If so, what is the setup for this, which would presumably also work for a on e light setup ?

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Nov 14, 2012 02:52 |  #1229

Alexam wrote in post #15243703 (external link)
With a setup of 2 groups (A & B), I am using three 622's (Camera and 2 speedlites). Can I then use the extra 622 I have to actually trigger the camera if I wanted to. If so, what is the setup for this, which would presumably also work for a one light setup?

Hello, Malcolm.

No, you cannot. A great deal goes on in the camera between shutter-release press and when the shutter is open and triggers the flash. A separate shutter-release pair is needed. I currently use Pixel Soldiers for that. Radio interference must be avoided, too.


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Nov 14, 2012 07:45 |  #1230

CliveyBoy wrote in post #15243731 (external link)
Hello, Malcolm.

No, you cannot. A great deal goes on in the camera between shutter-release press and when the shutter is open and triggers the flash. A separate shutter-release pair is needed. I currently use Pixel Soldiers for that. Radio interference must be avoided, too.

Thanks Clive, can you expand on that please. If it's possible to trigger the shutter wirelessly when using the 622's, I would like to know about it .


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