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Nov 13, 2012 19:00 |  #9631

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What would be your choice? Hassy for me falls into affordable. :)

I have to look at MF from the point of someone who has never used it and because I don't have deep pockets for gear. If I was going to dabble in it I would go for the Pentax and their 55mm f/2.8 lens. I am really impressed by what I've seen.


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Nov 13, 2012 19:02 |  #9632

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Nov 13, 2012 19:06 |  #9633

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full frame 55-300 f/2.8-4 on the way...

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A patent doesn't mean something will be commercially produced. Both Canon and Nikon have dozens of patents for lenses filed in the last twenty years that they have never been produced. Sometimes they are determined to be too costly to produce and unlikely to offer a good return on development.


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Nov 13, 2012 19:22 |  #9634

K6AZ wrote in post #15242470 (external link)
A patent doesn't mean something will be commercially produced. Both Canon and Nikon have dozens of patents for lenses filed in the last twenty years that they have never been produced. Sometimes they are determined to be too costly to produce and unlikely to offer a good return on development.

That doesn't sound bad at all. Nikon already has the 28-300mm f3.5-5.6 VRII and is priced around $1,050. This new patent will be heavier although the larger aperture will be a welcome feature.


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Nov 13, 2012 19:39 |  #9635

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That doesn't sound bad at all. Nikon already has the 28-300mm f3.5-5.6 VRII and is priced around $1,050. This new patent will be heavier although the larger aperture will be a welcome feature.

A lot of things go into which of the concept lenses actually gets produced. Don't forget the new 70-200 f/4. For a lens in the range of 55-300mm with a max aperture of f/2.8 I would expect this to be a heavy lens. The 70-300 VR is very sharp from 70-270mm though it is a couple of stops slower. We'll see but I remember someone doing a fairly comprehensive study of Nikon and Canon patents a few years ago and fewer than one in ten patent concepts ever saw the light of day.


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Nov 13, 2012 19:47 |  #9636

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A lot of things go into which of the concept lenses actually gets produced. Don't forget the new 70-200 f/4. For a lens in the range of 55-300mm with a max aperture of f/2.8 I would expect this to be a heavy lens. The 70-300 VR is very sharp from 70-270mm though it is a couple of stops slower. We'll see but I remember someone doing a fairly comprehensive study of Nikon and Canon patents a few years ago and fewer than one in ten patent concepts ever saw the light of day.

I'd say its less likely to see the light of day simply because of the focal length, 55-300 is weird for FF, i know its been done before, but i think a 70-300 or a 100-300 f/2.8-4 would be easier to design...

Either that or its a 1-system or a DX lens


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Nov 13, 2012 19:53 |  #9637

They have more important things to do anyway like update the 80-400 so it can actually compete with Canon's 100-400,


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Nov 13, 2012 19:54 |  #9638

K6AZ wrote in post #15242621 (external link)
A lot of things go into which of the concept lenses actually gets produced. Don't forget the new 70-200 f/4. For a lens in the range of 55-300mm with a max aperture of f/2.8 I would expect this to be a heavy lens. The 70-300 VR is very sharp from 70-270mm though it is a couple of stops slower. We'll see but I remember someone doing a fairly comprehensive study of Nikon and Canon patents a few years ago and fewer than one in ten patent concepts ever saw the light of day.

I think that the norm, the last really big semiconductor company I worked for paid us for patents. Get something thru the internal patent committee and by the external lawyers we hired to look for prior art and you'd get a check, minimum was $1k. I recall when we needed a hardware RNG in 1999, the software RNG we were using was only a pseudo RNG, and it had to be we owned given we wanted to drop it on our high margin microprocessors. We found one patented in 1986 that had never been used. It had hung around for 13 years and never been touched.




  
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Nov 13, 2012 20:01 |  #9639

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I think that the norm, the last really big semiconductor company I worked for paid us for patents. Get something thru the internal patent committee and by the external lawyers we hired to look for prior art and you'd get a check, minimum was $1k. I recall when we needed a hardware RNG in 1999, the software RNG we were using was only a pseudo RNG, and it had to be we owned given we wanted to drop it on our high margin microprocessors. We found one patented in 1986 that had never been used. It had hung around for 13 years and never been touched.

I'm even more familiar with this field of patents and in this field the ratio has to be more like 1 in 50. The bottom line is that a patent doesn't mean the idea will ever be produced.


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Nov 13, 2012 20:02 |  #9640

K6AZ wrote in post #15242444 (external link)
I have to look at MF from the point of someone who has never used it and because I don't have deep pockets for gear. If I was going to dabble in it I would go for the Pentax and their 55mm f/2.8 lens. I am really impressed by what I've seen.

The Pentax images I've seen are impressive. The Hassy files I've seen are just as good. :)




  
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Nov 13, 2012 20:06 |  #9641

I heard Pentax MF lenses were some of the best oddly enough...


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Nov 13, 2012 20:07 |  #9642
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jdizzle wrote in post #15242713 (external link)
The Pentax images I've seen are impressive. The Hassy files I've seen are just as good. :)

Get a Pentax then!! Screw the Hassy.


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Nov 13, 2012 20:09 |  #9643

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Get a Pentax then!! Screw the Hassy.

I'm going Hassy H5D.




  
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Nov 13, 2012 20:10 |  #9644

Well, at least the 28mm 1.8G on the D800 is sharp...

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Nov 13, 2012 20:11 |  #9645

Razeus wrote in post #15242752 (external link)
Well, at least the 28mm 1.8G on the D800 is sharp...

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