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Nov 16, 2012 14:02 |  #31

ThreeGuysPhoto wrote in post #15253964 (external link)
Not really. Who is to say what "deep into photography" means. Photography gear is just a set of tools to produce your pictures. If you shoot portraits and DOF control is important you might want a fast prime. If you shoot landscapes you might want a zoom that is super sharp in the corners stopped down. You don't have to be a pro to have a need..., but for some of the gear you have to have a decent size wallet.

I do agree you need to know how to use these "tools" to get the best results.

Again, I am sorry to say....but if I think that I need for 50L or 85L or something similar, I should probably know how to get the maximum of it and whether these are the lenses I really need. As long as your skills and experience...also talent dictate the need for a gear, it is all great.


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Nov 16, 2012 14:11 |  #32

light_pilgrim wrote in post #15253976 (external link)
Again, I am sorry to say....but if I think that I need for 50L or 85L or something similar, I should probably know how to get the maximum of it and whether these are the lenses I really need. As long as your skills and experience...also talent dictate the need for a gear, it is all great.

But what does any of this have to do with the OP and helping him figure out what would be the best move for him? Maybe in your perfect world the most amazing creative photographers who know everything there is to know about photography get the expensive gear and those that don't get a rebel and kit lens. But, in the real world...

It's not like you have to show your portfolio to buy an L lens.. :lol::rolleyes:


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Nov 16, 2012 14:14 |  #33

ThreeGuysPhoto wrote in post #15254009 (external link)
But what does any of this have to do with the OP and helping him figure out what would be the best move for him?

But I said it 2 times - any zoom lens:-) It doesn't have to be 70-200II, it could be F/4 IS. It is lighter and super sharp. I bet after several attempts, the 70-200 II will stay at home...because it is indeed heavy for this every day family needs.

Anyways, who cares.............


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Nov 16, 2012 14:24 |  #34

light_pilgrim wrote in post #15254017 (external link)
But I said it 2 times - any zoom lens:-) It doesn't have to be 70-200II, it could be F/4 IS. It is lighter and super sharp. I bet after several attempts, the 70-200 II will stay at home...because it is indeed heavy for this every day family needs.

Anyways, who cares.............

I don't think the OP ever said the weight of the lens is an issue. Sure he could get the 70-200 f/4 IS or even the f/4 non IS and have a very sharp lens. But, in your magic crystal ball into every photographers need can you see if he will ever have the need to for the lens to open up to f/2.8?

But, if this was really the point you were getting to ...you could have found your way to it quicker and in a much less condescending way. Cheers!


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Nov 16, 2012 14:33 |  #35

If I were mostly inside, I would look at the 35 and 85 due to both the smaller working space and the extra light collection. The 50 and 70-200 might make more sense outdoors due to range and less need for super wide light collection.


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Nov 16, 2012 14:54 |  #36

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But, in your magic crystal ball into every photographers need can you see if he will ever have the need to for the lens to open up to f/2.8?

But this is exactly my point - only he is going to know, not you and I.


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Nov 16, 2012 15:15 |  #37

I'm having a hard time gelling with my current lineup. I dumped a bunch of money into buying some great glass recently but I seem to be struggling to make it all work for my needs.

What are your needs? You own some great lenses so there is no reason why these lenses cannot produce good photos and I don't see how anyone can make a suggestion as to what to change.

I did look at your flickr and you have some really nice shots so not sure why is really wrong. Keep shooting.


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Nov 16, 2012 17:37 |  #38

PeyDay17 wrote in post #15253745 (external link)
Thanks. I just ordered the 70-200 2.8. I will keep the 50 and more than likely sell the rest.

Congrats.




  
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Nov 16, 2012 18:23 |  #39
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PeyDay17 wrote in post #15251526 (external link)
I love my primes for the thin DOF and IQ but my 2 year old makes the 135L difficult to use.

I told ya:)

Had the 135L for awhile shooting my now 21 months daughter. Loved the lens but was totally impractical chasing toddlers.

Sold it for 70-200mkII and never look back.

Personally I have no problem with the weight. Versatility and IQ far outweights the bulk and size for me.

I sold my 24-105 and don't miss it the slightest bit. Boring mediocre lens at its finest.

I prefer 50 over 35 for kids. To me 35 is the exact opposite of 135. if you can't frame the way you want due to active daughter with 135, then 35L is just a mess of loose framing. I often ended up cropping so much I start asking myself what is the point?


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Nov 16, 2012 19:25 |  #40

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I think for what you describe, use your 24-105 more. Super thin dof gets old. Sell the stuff you don't use.

I was going to suggest the same. Sounds like the 24-105 would be perfect. Outside, f/4, set the ISO up and you can shoot pretty fast.


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Nov 16, 2012 19:42 |  #41

kin2son wrote in post #15254837 (external link)
I told ya:)

Had the 135L for awhile shooting my now 21 months daughter. Loved the lens but was totally impractical chasing toddlers.

Sold it for 70-200mkII and never look back.

Personally I have no problem with the weight. Versatility and IQ far outweights the bulk and size for me.

I sold my 24-105 and don't miss it the slightest bit. Boring mediocre lens at its finest.

I prefer 50 over 35 for kids. To me 35 is the exact opposite of 135. if you can't frame the way you want due to active daughter with 135, then 35L is just a mess of loose framing. I often ended up cropping so much I start asking myself what is the point?

Haha! You sure did. I was stubborn. Ive lusted after that lens for awhile now...but yeah, it really is hard to shoot a maniac of a toddler.

I agree with you on the 24-105. I dont like it either. Not that the lens is bad or anything, its just not for me.

Im glad to hear you love your 2.8 and 50. Im looking forward to having this setup. Too bad I ordered the 2.8 on a friday! Its gonna be a looong weekend!


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Nov 16, 2012 19:44 |  #42

... not even gonna attempt to read all three pages (too much wine in my system at the moment!), so I apologize for not melding into the conversation properly. Just read the first post, and had to blast the idea of a 35L+85L combo. The 35, maybe, but the 85 is a still/portrait lens in my experience. If shooting kids is your goal, you'll be just as frustrated as the 135.

I have found I love the 16-35 the most for taking pics of the little ones. The distortion is great because it really compliments their goofy side. The 24L is ok, but 16mm end really excels here. The 70-200 is my other favorite kid lens. The two together are great.


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Nov 17, 2012 00:00 |  #43

kin2son wrote in post #15254837 (external link)
I sold my 24-105 and don't miss it the slightest bit. Boring mediocre lens at its finest.

Check these photographs - all taken with 24-105: http://1x.com/artist/M​atjaz/photos (external link)
Boring can only be life, not the lens, but that is another story.


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Nov 17, 2012 00:06 |  #44

Ah I guess it's not!

Congrats on the decision. That's a beast of a lens.


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Nov 17, 2012 00:50 |  #45

light_pilgrim wrote in post #15255664 (external link)
Check these photographs - all taken with 24-105: http://1x.com/artist/M​atjaz/photos (external link)
Boring can only be life, not the lens, but that is another story.

Those are amazing man.


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