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Nov 18, 2012 17:10 |  #1

I am new to photography and looking to invest in a 24-70mm 2.8L lens. I realized there are two versions? What are the differences between the two?




  
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Nov 18, 2012 17:59 |  #2

MKII is more robust and much better optically.

MK1 is cheaper and has an odd reverse zoom action which means the hood works better.


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Nov 18, 2012 18:58 |  #3

Do you think its worth the extra grand for the MKII? or is the MKI just as good?

im debating on the 24-70mm to the 24-105mm




  
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Nov 18, 2012 19:46 |  #4

Read this.

http://www.lensrentals​.com …non-24-70-mk-ii-variation (external link)


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Nov 19, 2012 06:44 |  #5

Ken Rockwell has a decent review and comparison http://www.kenrockwell​.com/canon/lenses/24-70mm-ii.htm (external link)

I am upgrading because my understanding is that these newer 'II' lenses have more accurate autofocus with the 5D3 and 1DX.


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Nov 26, 2012 06:56 as a reply to  @ post 15263111 |  #6

I have both. Just bought the mark 2 version to test and sell the mark 1.

Optically, the tests do not show a vast improvement - possibly because the mark 1 is already pretty good.

Here is where I see the improvements in the mark 2 over the mark 1

1. The lens can lock on to a lower contrast object much better. The mark 1 will hunt.
2. The AF speed is much faster in the mark 2 - this is very good for me where I take photos of subjects with quick, unpredictable movement
3. It is lighter


However the hood that comes with it doesn't lock on very securely. It nearly came off in an event (it somehow became slightly loose). It would have been very embarrassing to see the hood fall and roll on to the field of play.




  
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Nov 26, 2012 06:57 |  #7

iamsammy84 wrote in post #15261108 (external link)
I am new to photography and looking to invest in a 24-70mm 2.8L lens. I realized there are two versions? What are the differences between the two?

Price, MKII is 1000 USD more expensive


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Nov 26, 2012 07:12 |  #8

flickserve wrote in post #15290319 (external link)
Here is where I see the improvements in the mark 2 over the mark 1

1. The lens can lock on to a lower contrast object much better. The mark 1 will hunt.
2. The AF speed is much faster in the mark 2 - this is very good for me where I take photos of subjects with quick, unpredictable movement
3. It is lighter

I can see points 2 and 3, but with #1? AF is a function of the body and the sensitivity of the AF sensor. I suppose that the lens can affect performance somewhat assuming that it is horrible with contrast, but the MkI is not that bad and the difference between the two is large looking at the graph, but in the overall picture, we are talking a very small change.


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Nov 26, 2012 11:18 |  #9

gjl711 wrote in post #15290355 (external link)
I can see points 2 and 3, but with #1? AF is a function of the body and the sensitivity of the AF sensor. I suppose that the lens can affect performance somewhat assuming that it is horrible with contrast, but the MkI is not that bad and the difference between the two is large looking at the graph, but in the overall picture, we are talking a very small change.

purely speculating, it could be something like there is more slack/less accuracy in the focus mechanism on the MKI which means often when making adjustments one way or another it overshoots, resulting in more tiny actuations needed to refine the focus.

That's pure conjecture as I said but not beyond the realms of possibility. Don't forget these things are mechanical!


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Nov 26, 2012 11:25 |  #10

flickserve wrote in post #15290319 (external link)
I have both. Just bought the mark 2 version to test and sell the mark 1.

Optically, the tests do not show a vast improvement - possibly because the mark 1 is already pretty good.

Here is where I see the improvements in the mark 2 over the mark 1

1. The lens can lock on to a lower contrast object much better. The mark 1 will hunt.
2. The AF speed is much faster in the mark 2 - this is very good for me where I take photos of subjects with quick, unpredictable movement
3. It is lighter

However the hood that comes with it doesn't lock on very securely. It nearly came off in an event (it somehow became slightly loose). It would have been very embarrassing to see the hood fall and roll on to the field of play.

1) i don't notice any difference. there may be a difference but nothing that i have perceived.

2) the II does focus faster but the focus speed of the brick was not too slow.

3) yes! plus it's waaay more baggable because canon abandoned the stupid design which required the stupid bucket hood.

4) much sharper! very nicely complements the newer 70-200L zooms in resolution. an absolute joy to work with.


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Nov 26, 2012 11:28 |  #11

light_pilgrim wrote in post #15290321 (external link)
Price, MKII is 1000 USD more expensive

wouldn't we have been shocked if the II was cheaper :D? i can almost guarantee you that every new canon lens that you desire will cost more than you think it should.


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Nov 26, 2012 11:36 |  #12

RobDickinson wrote in post #15261281 (external link)
MKII is more robust and much better optically.

MK1 is cheaper and has an odd reverse zoom action which means the hood works better.

i don't agree with the hood works better. the design of brick, imo, was a failed concept which canon abandoned. the hood was much bigger than normal because of the weird design and it gave the illusion of working better.

now if the II were more prone to flair i might agree with works better, but it isn't.


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Nov 26, 2012 11:38 |  #13

iamsammy84 wrote in post #15261455 (external link)
Do you think its worth the extra grand for the MKII? or is the MKI just as good?

im debating on the 24-70mm to the 24-105mm

no way is the mk I is "just as good". but whether the II is worth a grand more is your decision. to me it was worth it but i was never real happy with the brick and even less so with the 24-105L.


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Nov 26, 2012 13:29 |  #14

i own the 24-70 mkI and use it with 5DM3, it works just fine and i'm really happy with it

i also tried the mkII recently and in most cases, didn't notice any real difference, AF is not really much more accurate

IQ is of course better but unless you spend your time watching 100% crops, you won't notice any difference

profit from Canon is excessive for this update :(

my advice: buying a mk I and investing in another L lens (like prime lens) rather than spending all the money into the mk II


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Nov 26, 2012 18:47 |  #15

ed rader wrote in post #15291203 (external link)
i don't agree with the hood works better. the design of brick, imo, was a failed concept which canon abandoned. the hood was much bigger than normal because of the weird design and it gave the illusion of working better.

You might not agree, but the fact that the MK1 hood covered the entire focal length range, while the MK2 hood only properly shades at 24mm, and nothing beyond, is well, fact. Few on here would call the brick a failed concept. Many have made a good living off that lens.

This place used to be all about advocating lens hood usage and proper lens hoods, going so far as to poke fun at those seen shooting with their hoods on the lens reversed (have it, but don't use it), and stating that hoods are better lens protection than screw-in filters.


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