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Nov 18, 2012 16:01 as a reply to  @ post 15260595 |  #8386

Or just look at pictures ;-)a


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Nov 18, 2012 16:24 |  #8387

Might have got too much flair on this one!


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Nov 18, 2012 16:58 |  #8388

john owen wrote in post #15260586 (external link)
Lets debate photoshop and whats too much while im retouching the hell out of my latest shot!

At what point does it stop being a rig shot?

If a rig was used to shoot both the car and the background, IMO, it's always going to be a rig shot.


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Nov 18, 2012 18:08 |  #8389

here is one i did today, nothing special. just wanted to try my magic arm out.

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Nov 18, 2012 18:20 |  #8390

john owen wrote in post #15260586 (external link)
Lets debate photoshop and whats too much while im retouching the hell out of my latest shot!

At what point does it stop being a rig shot?

This is a very old philosophical paradox called Theseus' Ship.

Basically, Theseus has a ship that he built from scratch, but he falls on hard times. A guy down the road wants to build a ship like the one Theseus has built, so he asks if he can buy some parts from Theseus to build it. Theseus doesn't want to sell the parts, but because of hard times, has to. Week by week the guy comes back to buy parts off of the ship until one day, there are no parts left to sell, and the guy has built his ship from nothing but parts from Theseus' ship.

The question isn't who owns the ship now, but when exactly was it no longer Theseus' ship? Which board made it the other guy's ship?

This brings us to defining exactly what something "is", and simply can't be done, which is why it's called a paradox.

One would think that, if you use a rig to take the shot, it's a rig-shot. However, if you end up replacing every single part of what made it a rig-shot (background, reflections, etc), then it's no longer a rig-shot. However, at which exact point can we tell when it crosses the line?

We cannot.

So, Photoshop to your heart's desire :).


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Nov 18, 2012 21:56 |  #8391

VisualEchos wrote in post #15261351 (external link)
This is a very old philosophical paradox called Theseus' Ship.

Basically, Theseus has a ship that he built from scratch, but he falls on hard times. A guy down the road wants to build a ship like the one Theseus has built, so he asks if he can buy some parts from Theseus to build it. Theseus doesn't want to sell the parts, but because of hard times, has to. Week by week the guy comes back to buy parts off of the ship until one day, there are no parts left to sell, and the guy has built his ship from nothing but parts from Theseus' ship.

The question isn't who owns the ship now, but when exactly was it no longer Theseus' ship? Which board made it the other guy's ship?

This brings us to defining exactly what something "is", and simply can't be done, which is why it's called a paradox.

One would think that, if you use a rig to take the shot, it's a rig-shot. However, if you end up replacing every single part of what made it a rig-shot (background, reflections, etc), then it's no longer a rig-shot. However, at which exact point can we tell when it crosses the line?

We cannot.

So, Photoshop to your heart's desire :).

i almost fell asleep reading this. back to rig shots please.




  
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Nov 18, 2012 22:00 |  #8392

Gii wrote in post #15258183 (external link)
Hello everyone, this is my first photos with rig :)]


nicely done


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Nov 18, 2012 22:42 |  #8393

Gii wrote in post #15258183 (external link)
Hello everyone, this is my first photos with rig :)


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these are so sharp, very nice work. probably two of the best in this thread.




  
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Nov 19, 2012 01:40 |  #8394

VisualEchos wrote in post #15261351 (external link)
This is a very old philosophical paradox called Theseus' Ship.

Basically, Theseus has a ship that he built from scratch, but he falls on hard times. A guy down the road wants to build a ship like the one Theseus has built, so he asks if he can buy some parts from Theseus to build it. Theseus doesn't want to sell the parts, but because of hard times, has to. Week by week the guy comes back to buy parts off of the ship until one day, there are no parts left to sell, and the guy has built his ship from nothing but parts from Theseus' ship.

The question isn't who owns the ship now, but when exactly was it no longer Theseus' ship? Which board made it the other guy's ship?

This brings us to defining exactly what something "is", and simply can't be done, which is why it's called a paradox.

One would think that, if you use a rig to take the shot, it's a rig-shot. However, if you end up replacing every single part of what made it a rig-shot (background, reflections, etc), then it's no longer a rig-shot. However, at which exact point can we tell when it crosses the line?

We cannot.

So, Photoshop to your heart's desire :).

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Nov 19, 2012 06:54 |  #8395

john owen wrote in post #15260978 (external link)
Might have got too much flair on this one!

Been there, done that :P

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Nov 19, 2012 07:10 |  #8396

I liked the flair on that one ;-)a


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Nov 19, 2012 08:32 |  #8397

Thinking of selling my rig-pro if anyone from the UK is interested... make me a decent offer if you're interested :) I'm selling it as 6m


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Nov 19, 2012 09:05 |  #8398

GFWilliams wrote in post #15263292 (external link)
Thinking of selling my rig-pro if anyone from the UK is interested... make me a decent offer if you're interested :) I'm selling it as 6m

A few weeks ago I might have had that, but im on the carbon now ;-)a

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Nov 19, 2012 10:07 |  #8399

Got to admit this thread's been a massive help/inspiration for me in terms of figuring out (and building) my own rig. I've only had a few chances to properly test it so all comments welcome.

Equipment i used is the generic Manfrotto pump cups + 3 x super clamps and a magic arm.

The actual pole, basically it's built from 3 sections of aluminium scaffolding pole, very light and joined the slightly smaller alloy poles which are around 2.5ft in length for strength. Bolted in on one end, and then we used a pair of generic clips found on car trailers etc. to then join them together.

All together it's a tad excessive, especially using a Sigma 10-20mm on my Canon 7D as the picture below shows!

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However, by taking out one of the pieces it makes it much more manageable - each pole is around 6ft each:

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Nov 19, 2012 10:48 |  #8400

^ love the water on the car!


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