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5D MkIII vs 5D MkII + 7D

 
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Nov 24, 2012 10:40 |  #31
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The question has been answered, the 5D3 is better than the other too options in every way but cost. Period. No matter what ef lens you list against any scenario the 5D3 will do a better job than the other two.

This is one of those questions that by asking you prove you don't have the knowledge to use the camera you're asking about. If you want to buy it and have the money to do so go for it - there, someone on the Internet justified it for you, go forth and enjoy your new camera.

The question might be answered with the 5d3 period in your mind only. Having two cameras each with complementary lens is a very nice option for shooting events. Have a 7d with it's implied reach is very useful for sports or wildlife. Your absolute 5d3 answer ( period ) is in your mind only.




  
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Nov 24, 2012 10:53 |  #32

The reach of the 7 is certainly handy but so is the higher detail and cropability of the 5D3.

Edit: Just want to add that Hogloff brings up a good point, there is a legitimate argument for the 7D in terms of reach. A similar argument is the narrower depth of field of the full frame sensor. Depends on which you value more - an example that proves my point that if you're asking this question this isn't the question you should be asking. I know I prefer the extra reach over the DOF adjustment so that is one knock against the larger sensor for me. A more productive way to approach this sort of comparison is to ask questions related to what and how you shoot then ask specific questions about the tools. X vs Y vs Z is just empty without a context.

An example: if the OP already has a 7D good stuff. If birding is really the priority sell the 100-400 and combine that with the money you would use to buy the overpriced (I'm gonna say it every time :D) 5D3 to buy a really kick butt tele prime. THAT will be better for birding.

Looked at what was being shot and then looked at the tool that was suitable.


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Nov 24, 2012 18:49 |  #33

Hogloff wrote in post #15279589 (external link)
But in real use...how much is the 5D3 AF improved over the 7D? I don't care about 1D and generations...how about real photography.

Are you serious? Read all the threads of people that have bought a used 1D3 as an upgrade from a 7D. If you don't accept that the 1D series AF performs better in real photography, I'm not sure what to say. The guy I sold mine too is ecstatic about the improved AF. I've not shot with a 7D, so only going on what I'm reading in that regard.

I can say that the system in the 5D3/1DX is a significant upgrade from the 1D3. If you are trying to shoot something that is moving, its the first Canon AF system that I've felt comfortable trusting anything other than the center point... be it tracking on another single point, or expansion, or letting it track across the points. These modes, to me, were terrible on all other bodies. Also, the 5D3's ease of configuration compared to other 1D bodies for AF settings makes what is there, immensely more configurable and usable. Where I spent hours of trial and error testing and fiddling with combinations of settings to achieve the best results in a given situation, the 5D3/1DX has dramatically simplified the menu system.


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Nov 24, 2012 19:25 |  #34
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Are you serious? Read all the threads of people that have bought a used 1D3 as an upgrade from a 7D. If you don't accept that the 1D series AF performs better in real photography, I'm not sure what to say. The guy I sold mine too is ecstatic about the improved AF. I've not shot with a 7D, so only going on what I'm reading in that regard.

I can say that the system in the 5D3/1DX is a significant upgrade from the 1D3. If you are trying to shoot something that is moving, its the first Canon AF system that I've felt comfortable trusting anything other than the center point... be it tracking on another single point, or expansion, or letting it track across the points. These modes, to me, were terrible on all other bodies. Also, the 5D3's ease of configuration compared to other 1D bodies for AF settings makes what is there, immensely more configurable and usable. Where I spent hours of trial and error testing and fiddling with combinations of settings to achieve the best results in a given situation, the 5D3/1DX has dramatically simplified the menu system.

You wrote a lot but said little regarding my question. What scenario does the 5d3 excel in that the 7d is challenged in?




  
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Nov 24, 2012 20:04 |  #35

Hogloff wrote in post #15284761 (external link)
You wrote a lot but said little regarding my question. What scenario does the 5d3 excel in that the 7d is challenged in?

Shooting sports in low light for one.;) Better higher ISO, Better AF tracking with outside points, AI servo is lot more configurable. Shallower DOF of FF vs 1.6x crop helps in isolating players. Higher fps of 7d is only thing going against 5dmk3.


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Nov 24, 2012 21:53 |  #36

All of them Hogloff (except fps). What are you concerned about? See, the question is empty - WHAT are you asking?

How is a BMW better than a MB? How are grapefruit better than apples? These things are comparable but if you're looking for how it's better you need to be specific about what you're asking - or lacking. What is it you CAN'T do with your 7D and the 100-400 now? Then ask if the 5D3 can do that instead of trying to solve problems you don't even know you have. Unsubscribing. There's certainly nothing for me here and you won't listen to me cause I'm not telling you what you want to hear even though it's what you need to. Good luck.


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Jan 22, 2013 11:45 |  #37

Combo 6D + 7D for more options than the 5D MKIII



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Jan 22, 2013 11:52 |  #38

Wish_Star wrote in post #15520120 (external link)
Combo 6D + 7D for more options than the 5D MKIII

You answered your own question


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Jan 22, 2013 19:14 |  #39

Wish_Star wrote in post #15520120 (external link)
Combo 6D + 7D for more options than the 5D MKIII

I think this might be a good option. Going by dpreview, the 6D actually has a better sensor than than 5D3 with less noise and a cleaner image, so it's an excellent camera for architecture, landscape, portraits. In situations where you need reach and autofocus the 7D is the best body too.
So with the 6D and 7D you get a more capable kit than just a 5D3.


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Jan 22, 2013 21:06 |  #40

jaomul wrote in post #15520151 (external link)
You answered your own question

Yes ! but i has multiple problem to choose 6D :lol::lol:



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Jan 22, 2013 22:06 |  #41

I actually have a thread open about 7D vs 5D3 at low iso outside in good light and MY comment was I was suprised there is VERY little difference in IQ. I was expecting more detail but there was none. maybe 1% more detail big whoop.

NOW I see threads like this that say 5D3 owns all. guess what guys... WHATEVER. why would you tell me in my thread that "oh any camera will produce these results yadayada"

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1268166

See for yourself guy, I was amazed there is no difference at low iso outdoor. This is why I'm choosing the 6D/7D combo for me (as a non pro) The 6D will serve to be a very great vacation camera.


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Jan 23, 2013 17:06 |  #42

6D + 1D mark III. Best of all worlds. A full frame with all the bells and whistles combined with a jetfighter action camera.


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