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Which lens to hire - 85 1.8 or 1.2?

 
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Nov 29, 2012 16:29 |  #1

Hi.

I have a night time wedding over Christmas and I'm thinking of hiring an 85mm.

I used to own the 85mm 1.8 and I've played with the 1.2 a few times.

I LOVE the 1.2 - I love the look you get from that shallow DOF but it is a tad slow to focus and you're going to end with less shots in focus with that lens if you're shooting at 1.2 (and let's face it - if you have that lens you'll want to shoot at 1.2).

I know the 1.8 well - it's an awesome lens and will focus quickly and give me good results.

But - I know I'll be missing out on that 1.2 magic.

I have a 100mm and a 35mm zeiss manual focus lens also.

Plus - the 1.2 will give that extra boost when shooting in low light..

I'll have 2 cameras and don't really intend to change lenses at all - so 1 camera with the 35mm and one with an 85mm... just depends which one.

What would you guys rather shoot with at a night time wedding?


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Nov 29, 2012 16:35 |  #2

For hiring I would suggest the 85L II, for buying I would suggest looking at the Sigma 85 f1.4 - priced in-between the 1.8 and 1.2, and much closer to the 1.2 in quality. I am amazed how good mine is.

But no point hiring the 1.8 I'm sure whatever extra it costs to hire the 1.2 would be worth it.


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Nov 29, 2012 16:35 |  #3
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Straight up, I don't do weddings. But I would have a hard time with too thin DOF with a 85mm lens at f/1.2. I struggle with my 85 1.8 sometimes.


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Nov 29, 2012 16:54 |  #4

From everything I have read there is a bit of a learning curve with the 85LII. Not sure I would want to bite that off for a wedding.




  
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Nov 29, 2012 17:07 |  #5

I've never hired but I'd always worry about hiring something that I'd fall in love with & couldn't afford!!!!

Maybe the Sigma f/1.4 would be an in between option for hiring....?!?


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Nov 29, 2012 17:09 |  #6

Thanks for your comments.

I've only had bad luck with Sigma - I'm sure you guys have had better experiences but I couldn't risk using one again.

I might just hire both the 1.2 and the 1.8 and find a third camera.. I know it sounds stupid but I think if you can nail just 5 shots with that 1.2 it can really make a set - combine that with some great shots from the 1.8 and my ultra sharp Zeiss 35mm and I might be there.

I love making life difficult for myself (in case you're wondering) - I could of course just hire a 24-70 and be done with it but I like the idea of limiting myself - I always seem to get better results when I have less options.


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Nov 29, 2012 17:10 |  #7

To own - 85L II
To rent - 85 1.8 / 85 1.4 / 135 f/2 (throwing this out there)

I trust myself now after a few months of practice to use the 85L II at weddings and for fun general photography.


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Nov 29, 2012 19:37 |  #8

If you need faster focus get the 85mm f/1.8. You will get more keepers with a 1.8 than the 1.2 just because of the extra DOF and the faster AF. If you are shooting objects that aren't moving about real fast and you want to create a very unique looking image, the 1.2 is the way to go. It really is absurdly priced though. I'm not sure if I can justify the price... but there's nothing really like it.


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Nov 29, 2012 19:53 |  #9

Sorry to ask this stupid question:
As OP is a Zeiss guy and very good with manual focus, why not considering Zeiss 85?


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Nov 29, 2012 20:00 |  #10

Some of the comments on here are funny about the 85L providing too thin of DOF. If it's too thin, why not stop the lens down to increase DOF? LOL

But to answer your question, if it's just for renting, go for the 85L. The lens is very special and will produce beautiful pictures.


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Nov 29, 2012 20:54 |  #11

it's a wedding, they probably expect dreamy looking photos. 85L will do that.




  
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Nov 29, 2012 21:07 |  #12

Vixen89 wrote in post #15305618 (external link)
To own - 85L II
To rent - 85 1.8 / 85 1.4 / 135 f/2 (throwing this out there)

I trust myself now after a few months of practice to use the 85L II at weddings and for fun general photography.

Why rent the 85 f1.4 if you recommend not renting the 1.2? There is little difference, and nothing to suggest he can't stop either lens down.


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Nov 29, 2012 23:48 |  #13

gonzogolf wrote in post #15305557 (external link)
From everything I have read there is a bit of a learning curve with the 85LII. Not sure I would want to bite that off for a wedding.

I agree.




  
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Nov 30, 2012 00:03 |  #14

gonzogolf wrote in post #15305557 (external link)
From everything I have read there is a bit of a learning curve with the 85LII. Not sure I would want to bite that off for a wedding.

having owned one, the only "learning curve" i'm aware of is you have to be careful when mounting it to the body, the rear element is exposed and can be nicked.




  
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Nov 30, 2012 03:52 |  #15

x_tan wrote in post #15306246 (external link)
Sorry to ask this stupid question:
As OP is a Zeiss guy and very good with manual focus, why not considering Zeiss 85?

The Zeiss 85 doesn't open up to 1.2 otherwise I'd go for it - those lenses are easier to MF than the Canon (as you'd expect) and I've found I generally get more keepers now with MF lens than AF..

Actually - come to think of it I think I've only ever tried the MK 1 version of the 85 1.2

Is the MK II version faster focusing?

And - in terms of worrying about the paper-thin DOF on @ 1.2 - That, after all, is what you're after - I think it's a given that at that aperture you're not going to nail all your shots but when you do you've got something magic.


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