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Nov 30, 2012 15:29 |  #8446

Stopped off on the way back from Vegas.

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Dec 01, 2012 08:36 |  #8448

Excellent shot man!


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Dec 01, 2012 11:05 |  #8449

VisualEchos wrote in post #15307789 (external link)
I'm sure the carbon tubes are superior in some ways, there's just one problem; they don't produce any better pictures. I actually wish they did, then I'd start selling carbon, but for now, they're just very cool bling :cool:.

Would it also be true then that a good ali pole doesn't help either? And really we are talking about technique to pull the shot out?

There must be a point were kit starts to play a larger part of getting the shot? Stable rig, less flex, lighter, better components etc

We all know your a big fan of woods cups and say they are much better, with a lighter pole you might find the avengers are enough?


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Dec 01, 2012 11:06 |  #8450

Thats very very cool


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Dec 01, 2012 20:54 |  #8451

john owen wrote in post #15312278 (external link)
Would it also be true then that a good ali pole doesn't help either? And really we are talking about technique to pull the shot out?

There must be a point were kit starts to play a larger part of getting the shot? Stable rig, less flex, lighter, better components etc

We all know your a big fan of woods cups and say they are much better, with a lighter pole you might find the avengers are enough?

I would argue the oposite. Great equipment sets you up for a great shot...but it is up to you to compose and setup the actual story. So the kit plays a lesser part overall as much as having the latest and greatest in camera body technology does. Ultimately...a great shot comes from the photographer and not the equipment...


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Dec 01, 2012 22:27 |  #8452

john owen wrote in post #15312278 (external link)
Would it also be true then that a good ali pole doesn't help either? And really we are talking about technique to pull the shot out?

There must be a point were kit starts to play a larger part of getting the shot? Stable rig, less flex, lighter, better components etc

We all know your a big fan of woods cups and say they are much better, with a lighter pole you might find the avengers are enough?

By using inferior equipment you're just making it harder on yourself. With a flawless road, and flawless technique, just about anything can work as a boom, even plastic. In this very thread you have people using all kinds of stuff, and maybe not posting top of the line work, but still getting the job done.

The thing about the Rig-Pro boom is that it's rigid/stable enough to make the shot easy on you, no need for a guide wire, no need for a flawless road or flawless technique, and the keeper rate is fantastic. With carbon fiber, you have some other issues, but in general, the keeper rate is the same or better. Unfortunately, like I said above, it doesn't make the shot any better. If a crystal clear rig-shot can be had for $259, there really is no need to pay $1,200-$2,000 for the same crystal clear shot.

Not an argument, just sayin' :).

As far as the Avengers, with a carbon fiber boom, 4.41 lbs of holding power could be enough, I just don't trust the pumps, so to me, the Avenger will never be suitable for rig-shots, even if the boom weighed nothing at all.

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Dec 02, 2012 02:21 |  #8453

VisualEchos wrote in post #15314455 (external link)
By using inferior equipment you're just making it harder on yourself.

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Agreed

I swapped to the film pumps a while ago and i find they just give more confidence when your at the end of your rig, knowing you got a bit more suction....

In general i think the better your kit the easier it will be. Weight reduction combined with better components is the way - like your thinner camera rods. just savy thinking making the job easier


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Dec 02, 2012 11:14 |  #8454

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does this count lol.
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of course! :cool:

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Dec 02, 2012 12:45 as a reply to  @ john owen's post |  #8455

Pocket wizard scrapping the floor on this one!


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Dec 02, 2012 20:04 |  #8456

Hey John, nice image. The carbon must be working for you... ;)


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Dec 03, 2012 07:55 |  #8457

Ken Cravillion wrote in post #15317925 (external link)
Hey John, nice image. The carbon must be working for you... ;)

Thanks Ken, I like the carbon for the simple fit together process

Im not getting anywhere near the keeper rate that Andrew claims he is getting off his Rig Pro but that may be about set up and working process as much as the pole itself


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Dec 03, 2012 09:14 |  #8459

Love that one!

Would be interesting to see a "warm" version as well




  
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Dec 03, 2012 09:17 |  #8460

Nice work. Are you blowing the sky and adding the sun burst in


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