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Dec 05, 2012 10:00 |  #1

I will be upgrading to 6D in couple of weeks down the line. I am a hobyist with interest in landscapes, people and portraits.

I will be using my 24-70 as primary and walk around lens. I am thinking of supplementing this lens with two primes for people and portraits. I am considering following options:

Option 1: 35f2 and 85f1.8
Option 2: 50f1.4 and 85f1.8
Option 3: 50f1.4 and 100f2

I cannot afford L primes, however I will be considering Canon & Sigma after firming up my option.

My assumptions: Color & contrast from these primes will match L zoom. Plenty data on net on sharpness and sharpness wise these primes match zoom.

Basically I need to go for option which gives me more flexibility and thereby reduces my dependence on zoom by 50%.

Kindly give your comments to help me take a step towards >50% dependence on primes.

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Dec 05, 2012 10:03 |  #2

Option 1, it gives you a bit more range.


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Dec 05, 2012 10:12 |  #3

It really depends on what you want the lenses to do for you. I shoot crop and use the 35f2, 50F1.4 and 85F1.8. On full-frame, this would be comparable to the 50, 85 and 135. I use the 35F2 more than the 50F1.4. The 85 is used the least, but may be the best of the lot, at least in terms of AF speed.
I'd go for the 50 and 85, but that fits my use. If you want a good lens for street shooting, indoor candids and travel, the 35 would be fine. It depends on whether you want wider or longer focal lengths, and whether you are keeping your crop body.
You can pick up one of them and then decide what to do.




  
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Dec 05, 2012 10:25 |  #4

I will not be keeping crop body.


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Dec 05, 2012 10:28 |  #5

Your 24-70 will serve fine for a lot of your purposes, though frankly I like mine better as a portrait lens on a crop camera than on full frame. The image qualty of the 24-70 rivals any of the primes you're considering. The only benefit would be larger apertures (about one stop larger... the 50mm gets a bit soft larger than f2 or f2.2. The 35mm maxes out at f2). Another benefit would be the smaller size of the prime lenses, compared to the 24-70. Early reports are that the 6D is at least as good as the 5DIII's high ISO performance, so you should see a minimum of one stop higher usable ISO than you enjoy now with your 500D.

But, mainly, with so few lenses in your kit, you probably would be best served by not duplicating any of the focal lengths you have (i.e. skip over both 35 and 50mm primes for now). I doubt this will be your last gear purchase. You can always add more lenses later, if you find something lacking.

No prime lens is as "flexible" or versatile as a zoom. The reason for going with primes instead of zooms are: smaller size, less intrusive, potentially larger apertures, possibly better image qualities in some ways. Problem is you are putting mostly mid-grade primes up against one of the best zooms on the market.

For people and portraits with a full frame camera, the choices are easy: 85/1.8 and 135/2. Or, as a single lens alternative: 100/2 or the 135/2.

Personally I do not like using macro lenses for portraiture. Too sharp and "clinical" looking. Also, macros are limited to f2.8 at largest. Plus most are slower focusing, which may not matter with posed portraits but can make a difference with candids.

Personally I'd also want a wider lens for your other interests.... landscapes and such. If budget is a concern, either use your Tokina or go with one portrait lens and get a 20/2.8 for a wider lens. FYI, your Tokina 12-24 can be used on full frame as wide as 18 or 19mm before it starts to vignette. However, a 20/2.8 is better corrected and will give less distortion.

I use both crop and full frame. Often when I'm only shooting with the FF camera, especially when travelling with it, I carry this minimal lens kit:

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24-70/2.8
135/2
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My interests also include wildlife, hence the longer lens and teleconverter. For macro, I always carry a set of extension tubes, which in this case work very well with the 24-70, 135 and the 300/4. The 24-70 and 300/4 are already very close focusing even without any extension.


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Dec 05, 2012 10:28 as a reply to  @ ssmanak's post |  #6

Consider the 100mm f2.8 macro. Excellent for portraits and adds the benefit of macro.

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Dec 05, 2012 10:45 |  #7

85 1.8 & 135L get my vote in your situation. Cost wise will be similar to option 1 you listed. On FF, 35mm is too close for portraits imo (except environmental portraits which can be done quite nicely with 24-70 and you got the zoom advantage).




  
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Dec 05, 2012 12:44 |  #8

I think all of your options leave you a little wide for "people and portraits" portion- especially if doing head shots on FF. I think a 70-200 zoom would be a more versatile option for you. I shoot 200mm head shots in studio all the time, most flattering perspective.


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Dec 05, 2012 15:02 |  #9

I have the 35 - 50 - 85 range of primes. A 35L, Sigma 50 & Sigma 85. All deliver great images. I do however use the 35L and 85 the most, the 35 as a walkaround and general purpose and the 85 for portraits. The 50 does not come out all that much, but I often want longer than the 85, but can certainly get by without. So out of your options the 35 and 85 would be my pick.


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Dec 05, 2012 19:43 |  #10

Thanks all. Off two lenses i wish to buy along with 6D, one i could decide - 85mm. Canon or sigma?? If sigma is double the cost, it shall be canon.


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Dec 05, 2012 22:20 |  #11

I like 100mm on FF, and the 100/2 is a great lens (and quite compact too which I find great).




  
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Dec 05, 2012 22:48 |  #12

seoul4korea wrote in post #15329287 (external link)
Option 1, it gives you a bit more range.

This

Gotta have something wide.


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Dec 05, 2012 22:53 |  #13

#1.


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Dec 06, 2012 08:53 |  #14

windpig wrote in post #15332084 (external link)
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Gotta have something wide.

Agree.

85mm f1.8 is very nice on FF for portrait shots even full body studio shots. If you can't afford 35L then 35mm f2 is nice option for that wider look.


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Dec 06, 2012 09:12 |  #15

windpig wrote in post #15332084 (external link)
This

Gotta have something wide.

TheFarmer wrote in post #15332099 (external link)
#1.

bobbyz wrote in post #15333156 (external link)
Agree.

85mm f1.8 is very nice on FF for portrait shots even full body studio shots. If you can't afford 35L then 35mm f2 is nice option for that wider look.


I thought OP said he'll keep the 24-70L so it's wide enough? unless he wants a faster prime or f2.8 is boring to him like some ppl said :D




  
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