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Whats so special about the mp-e 65mm f/2.8 1-5X macro lens

 
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Oct 30, 2012 11:52 |  #16

It's the holy grail of macro, especially for people who are already familliar with using tubes + TC's on a regular macro lens, or use reversed lenses in front of tele lenses. A great way to get into the further magnifications is to find an old 28mm f/2.8 (or 3.5) prime and reverse-mount it on something like a 100mm macro. Assuming you have the latter, a 28mm prime + 58mm reverse ring will set you back like ~60 dollars and it's good to estimate on whether or not it's your cup of tea.


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Nov 06, 2012 04:08 |  #17

moltengold wrote in post #15182654 (external link)
its a great lens
no focus ring , stop breathing and shoot hehehehe

my simple setup

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Very simple!! did you make the that? soft box or diffuser what ever they call it :P


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Dec 03, 2012 10:27 |  #18

moltengold wrote in post #15182654 (external link)
its a great lens
no focus ring , stop breathing and shoot hehehehe

my simple setup

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Can you post some sample shots with this setup please?


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Dec 03, 2012 12:46 |  #19

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Can you post some sample shots with this setup please?

I suggest you take a look at the "Show us your Macro Rig" thread: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=142566
There you will find dozens of setups and novel ideas for lighting the MP-E. You will also see many FlickR links so you can check out their results.
The above may look like an inexpensive solution but the results will be less than optimal.

One important factor to be aware of is that the closer the flash head is to the subject the shorter the flash duration. Shorter flash duration equals sharper photos. ;)

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Dec 03, 2012 13:04 as a reply to  @ Snowyman's post |  #20

I've lusted after this lens for a while.

I love my 100mm 2.8L IS Macro, and with extension tubes can get about 2:1, and add a 1.4X to those to get almost 3:1. But if you look at some of the shots in the macro sharing section taken with the MP-E at 5:1... well, some of that stuff is just brilliant (depending on the photographer).

The only thing holding me back from getting one is a combination of my shaky hands, no IS, and my dislike for tripods when shooting bugs.


edit: But I may end up with one anyway ;)


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Dec 03, 2012 13:15 |  #21

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The only thing holding me back from getting one is a combination of my shaky hands, no IS, and my dislike for tripods when shooting bugs.

I'm 54, half blind from looking at a monitor for two decades and constantly doing the watusi (as they say out in India!). There is no need for tripods, brace or a beanpole and a Speedlite is all the IS you'll ever need.


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Dec 03, 2012 13:22 |  #22

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #15181454 (external link)
Yeah, basically the MP-E is a lens that can only shoot at macro distances, starting off where others stop, at 1:1 magnification, and goes all the way up to 5:1, which is 5x closer than any standard macro lens.
Using this lens without any support gear, like geared tripod head w/macro rails and macro flash is an exercise in futility, it's a very special-purpose lens.

You can read about it here: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/​lenses/mp-e-65.shtml (external link)

I shoot hand held with this lens all the time. One just needs a lot of light. That said, it is a great match for the MT-24 which I also use from time to time.


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Dec 03, 2012 23:33 |  #23

Beware the "show me your macro rig" thread. It's a time sink, a joyful, endless time sink. You will end up with an obsession far beyond what you've ever experienced, and that is just for putting together a rig to test, share and tweak.

And then, the cleaning lady will throw out your carefully-collected parts for your rig, thinking it's just trash, what being screws and ball-thingies, and twisty-ties and scraps of white fabric and white foam sheets and all.

So when the 5x locks into your head of the MP-E, and you see some of the photos, you'll never look at a bug the same way ever again.


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Dec 04, 2012 04:58 |  #24

I agree with what has been said above. I really enjoy using mine but just to warn you that it's a specialist one trick pony of a lens: very good at macro and completely unable to do anything else, it does not even have a focus ring you basically set your magnification and move back and forth looking for the razor thin DOF to land on your subject. The 100mm 2.8 macro for example is a good all round lens that you can use for portraits and "normal" photos, the mpe 65 will have none of that!


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Dec 05, 2012 23:56 |  #25

StayFrosty wrote in post #15323933 (external link)
I agree with what has been said above. I really enjoy using mine but just to warn you that it's a specialist one trick pony of a lens: very good at macro and completely unable to do anything else, it does not even have a focus ring you basically set your magnification and move back and forth looking for the razor thin DOF to land on your subject. The 100mm 2.8 macro for example is a good all round lens that you can use for portraits and "normal" photos, the mpe 65 will have none of that!

alintx wrote in post #15323419 (external link)
Beware the "show me your macro rig" thread. It's a time sink, a joyful, endless time sink. You will end up with an obsession far beyond what you've ever experienced, and that is just for putting together a rig to test, share and tweak.

And then, the cleaning lady will throw out your carefully-collected parts for your rig, thinking it's just trash, what being screws and ball-thingies, and twisty-ties and scraps of white fabric and white foam sheets and all.

So when the 5x locks into your head of the MP-E, and you see some of the photos, you'll never look at a bug the same way ever again.


Thats the thing, if i was specialist bug photographer, that lens would've been owned buy me loooong ago, but I photograph almost everything, the next month am gonna shoot in a wedding, and this weekend Ill be shooting some natural desert dunes.
Though I always go back to macro, my love to macro is insane. Spending in that lens is a risk.
I spent 2 hours in the macro rig thread and ive only crossed 20 pages XD that thread is insane!


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Dec 06, 2012 00:00 |  #26

Snowyman wrote in post #15320815 (external link)
I suggest you take a look at the "Show us your Macro Rig" thread: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=142566
There you will find dozens of setups and novel ideas for lighting the MP-E. You will also see many FlickR links so you can check out their results.
The above may look like an inexpensive solution but the results will be less than optimal.

One important factor to be aware of is that the closer the flash head is to the subject the shorter the flash duration. Shorter flash duration equals sharper photos. ;)

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WOAH something new here, the shorter the flash durations mean fast shutter, fast shutter mean sturdy sharp photos. am I right? what do you mean flash duration?


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Dec 06, 2012 00:01 |  #27

Snowyman wrote in post #15320939 (external link)
I'm 54, half blind from looking at a monitor for two decades and constantly doing the watusi (as they say out in India!). There is no need for tripods, brace or a beanpole and a Speedlite is all the IS you'll ever need.

True passion here!!


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Dec 06, 2012 00:43 as a reply to  @ post 15185880 |  #28

Handholding the MP-E can be done, lots of people do it. It is my opinon that you have to perfect your technique on the 100L with extension tubes first, before you step up to the the MP-E. I have the 100L, and at first I thought it was difficult handholding at macro focal lengths, when I added the extension tubes it was whole new game. I kept plugging away, and my images started getting better. All I can say is take lots of practice to get good at the macro game, but it's worth it. Macro is really fun. I want to get a MP-E someday when I can devote more time to shooting macro. -rick


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Dec 06, 2012 02:37 |  #29

Snowyman wrote in post #15320815 (external link)
One important factor to be aware of is that the closer the flash head is to the subject the shorter the flash duration. Shorter flash duration equals sharper photos. ;)

^^^

Mony wrote in post #15332261 (external link)
WOAH something new here, the shorter the flash durations mean fast shutter, fast shutter mean sturdy sharp photos. am I right? what do you mean flash duration?

The shutter speed will become somewhat inconsequential as the flash duration gets shorter. I think Snowyman is pointing out that getting closer results in lower flash intensity. At lower power, the pulse duration is shorter and hence exposure (rather than shutter open time) is faster.

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Dec 06, 2012 03:53 |  #30

I had the MP-E65 for a few months, october 11 to january 12, and found it to be an excellent lens. It's a fantastic indoor lens but outdoors it's difficult to use if there's any breeze about.

Unfortunately, I had an accident that left me with limited movement and I could no longer get into the positions I needed to get the best out of the lens so I sold it and got a Canon 70-200 f2.8L IS MkI (which I've since updated to the MkII) but I love taking macro shots and really miss the MP-E, but I only have a 100 f2.8L IS Macro which is easier to work with.


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