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Why no "L" EF-S

 
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Dec 07, 2012 23:23 |  #31

Canon11385 wrote in post #15338678 (external link)
Was wondering why canon doesn't make a "L" lens in EF-S format. I think us crop owners deserve the best too.

This shouldn't require an answer IMHO. :rolleyes:

You know why.... The same reason for Lexus and Toyota. There are many great toyotas but no one is trying to call it a Lexus


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Dec 08, 2012 00:19 |  #32

Try the Canon_EF_400mm_f_2.8_L​_IS_Mk_II_USM. It says EF, but my understanding is that it doesn't fit on a FF body. This is for crop bodies only.


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Dec 08, 2012 00:29 |  #33

Canon11385 wrote in post #15338678 (external link)
Was wondering why canon doesn't make a "L" lens in EF-S format. I think us crop owners deserve the best too.

Just get a red rubber band.




  
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Dec 08, 2012 01:13 |  #34

David Ransley wrote in post #15340434 (external link)
Try the Canon_EF_400mm_f_2.8_L​_IS_Mk_II_USM. It says EF, but my understanding is that it doesn't fit on a FF body. This is for crop bodies only.

Where did you hear this?


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Dec 08, 2012 01:29 |  #35

David Ransley wrote in post #15340434 (external link)
Try the Canon_EF_400mm_f_2.8_L​_IS_Mk_II_USM. It says EF, but my understanding is that it doesn't fit on a FF body. This is for crop bodies only.

you must've had a FF body, and asked someone if you could borrow their 400L for them to tell you this...


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Dec 08, 2012 06:48 |  #36

A lot of people got angry with this question. Not my intent, I did not know the criteria for an L lens, but now I do. I was just asking cause I am a serious hobbiest but can't justify buying a ff and getting rid of all my ef-s lenses, so I would upgrade to the 7d. But as far as the lenses are concerned I now know that in order to be an L you must fit on all bodies. Someone could of just said that. To come out and make it sound like I'm not worthy because I don't have a 5d or a 1d makes me feel like crap. I know ef lenses work on crop cameras but the focal length is not the same. I don't want to start a fight but some comments really made it sound like some people felt they were better then me because of the t2i I shoot with and the question that I asked.


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Dec 08, 2012 06:51 |  #37

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Where did you hear this?

I looked around for 400mm lens options and read the part on this URL for the Canon EF 400mm f 2.8 IS Mk II USM (page 3): http://www.sacamera.co​.za …00044/Fixed+Foc​al+Length/ (external link)

I was surprised, but will need to research the statement to see if there is any truth to this.

"This heavyweight, 3850g lens is designed exclusively for APS-C size sensor Canon SLRs (most entry to mid range) and cannot be used on full-frame Canon SLRs."


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Dec 08, 2012 07:01 |  #38

David Ransley wrote in post #15340945 (external link)
I looked around for 400mm lens options and read the part on this URL for the Canon EF 400mm f 2.8 IS Mk II USM (page 3): http://www.sacamera.co​.za …00044/Fixed+Foc​al+Length/ (external link)

I was surprised, but will need to research the statement to see if there is any truth to this.

"This heavyweight, 3850g lens is designed exclusively for APS-C size sensor Canon SLRs (most entry to mid range) and cannot be used on full-frame Canon SLRs."

I wouldn't do business with a company that is too lazy to correct false information on one of the nicest lenses in the industry. an ef lens fits all (modern) canon bodies. efs fits only aps c bodies. no exceptions outside modifications.


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Dec 08, 2012 09:28 |  #39

Just a question:

If it does not have a RED ring, or a "L" letter, do you think its bad?

Well, I can say, I tried, the Canon EF-s 10-22, and the Canon EF-s 17-55...
Both are optically "L" quality?! What do you want more?!
(In prize too)

And if you don't belive me, just read the reviews:
10-22:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com …-4.5-USM-Lens-Review.aspx (external link)
"This lens is an ideal 2nd or 3rd lens for most photographers. I just wish I could use it on my full-frame DSLR bodies."

17-55:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com …8-IS-USM-Lens-Review.aspx (external link)
"With the introduction of the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens, Canon displays its commitment to the EF-S line of lenses... with its excellent features, specs and image quality, will find a home in many professional and amateur photographers' kits. This is the lens I keep mounted on my 1.6x body (currently a 50D) - I highly recommend it."

Its really not about the RED ring.


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Dec 08, 2012 11:57 as a reply to  @ NemethR's post |  #40

L lenses were made far before crop sensors were made. Back when (canon) dslrs were all 35mm format. So yes, L lenses are 'optimized' for that format. Why do you think the image circle covers the full frame sensor? I don't think they were designing L lenses thinking 'You know what, in the future we're gonna make sensors 1.6 times smaller, so lets optimize our lenses for those in the future.' It was just by coincidence that aps-c gets the sweet spot. Ef-S lenses can offer superior IQ but thats because most are current designs (although some L's are getting upgraded). If you own a crop sensor camera and all you care about is IQ, L lenses are not for you.


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Dec 08, 2012 12:26 as a reply to  @ dscri001's post |  #41

It was just by coincidence that aps-c gets the sweet spot. Ef-S lenses can offer superior IQ but thats because most are current designs.

If you own a crop sensor camera and all you care about is IQ, L lenses are not for you.[/QUOTE]

:oops::o:oops::o


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Dec 08, 2012 13:30 |  #42

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It was just by coincidence that aps-c gets the sweet spot. Ef-S lenses can offer superior IQ but thats because most are current designs.

If you own a crop sensor camera and all you care about is IQ, L lenses are not for you.

:oops::o:oops::o

I don't mean that it's wrong to have an L lens on a crop body. Hell I have one. Maybe I should have said 'might not be for you'. It's just I see so many people buying them for the wrong reason. I used a 55-250 for a while and it blew my mind. But for several other reasons (not just iq), I went and upgraded to a 70-200L.


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Dec 08, 2012 13:53 |  #43

Please let me the starter end the madness. I understand the concept of "L" now. Yes the 10-22 and the 17-55 are amazing lenses on par with the L optics, but because it does not fit all cameras that alone makes it unworthy of the red ring. I thought it was just the glass and build quality I was wrong.


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Dec 08, 2012 17:27 |  #44

Canon11385 wrote in post #15340941 (external link)
A lot of people got angry with this question. Not my intent, I did not know the criteria for an L lens, but now I do. I was just asking cause I am a serious hobbiest but can't justify buying a ff and getting rid of all my ef-s lenses, so I would upgrade to the 7d. But as far as the lenses are concerned I now know that in order to be an L you must fit on all bodies. Someone could of just said that. To come out and make it sound like I'm not worthy because I don't have a 5d or a 1d makes me feel like crap. I know ef lenses work on crop cameras but the focal length is not the same. I don't want to start a fight but some comments really made it sound like some people felt they were better then me because of the t2i I shoot with and the question that I asked.

The focal length is exactly the same. The field of view is what is different. :cool:


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Dec 08, 2012 18:11 |  #45

Canon11385 wrote in post #15340941 (external link)
I know ef lenses work on crop cameras but the focal length is not the same.

What you know just ain't so.

A 50mm EF lens ("L" or not) and an EF-S lens set to 50mm would provide the very same image when used on an APS-C format (the so-called "1.6 crop") camera such as your T2i.


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