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Dec 06, 2012 08:19 |  #1

These were shot at 3200, 2.0, 640 with cwb. Also just wondering if anyone has upgrade to 2.0.3 filmware. I did before this game and I don't know if it had anything to do with it but I seem to have more keeper that were a little sharper than normal.

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Dec 06, 2012 09:40 |  #2

wow, those are nice. i haven't upgraded, i think i'm still on the first release of the new ucode.




  
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Dec 08, 2012 18:05 |  #3

These taken today with the same settings. Please give me advise on how to improve. I still think the focus is a little soft. How do I improve on the focus problem?
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Dec 09, 2012 20:01 |  #4

Keep in mind you have about everything stacked against you. f/1.8 leaves a really thin DOF and is not really the sweet spot for the lens. If the focus picks up on the shoulder in your third example, the face will already be soft. 1/640 is still going to get motion blur to some extent especially anything involving quick direction changes.

There is not a whole lot more you can do unless you are buying a 1Dx and can start shooting really high ISO to give you more flexibility on aperture and shutter. Keep working on good tracking of the subjects and positioning and enjoy the keepers you get.

Don't let the OOF discourage you too much. It is to be expected at those settings.


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Dec 10, 2012 22:21 |  #5

You might try ISO 6400...
This is 1/1000, f/3.2, ISO 6400 (7D and 70-200 f/2.8) @70mm

If you pixel peep you might not like it but with a little NR (Noiseware) they print just fine. :)


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Dec 11, 2012 17:15 |  #6

They do look a tad soft, but are great shots none the less. I don't think its to do with motion blur or anything, and its not that your focus plane is off. They just look like they were either processed for noise, or that they need to be sharpened more in processing. What are you using to process them? I am a fan of Lightroom 4.


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Dec 12, 2012 10:18 |  #7

convergent wrote in post #15354860 (external link)
They do look a tad soft, but are great shots none the less. I don't think its to do with motion blur or anything, and its not that your focus plane is off. They just look like they were either processed for noise, or that they need to be sharpened more in processing. What are you using to process them? I am a fan of Lightroom 4.


I use lightroom 3, havent had it that long still learning it. below is the original just croped. Anyone please feel free to adjust it and let me know how you did it.

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Dec 14, 2012 11:46 |  #8

OK, these were shot at 2.8, 640, 5000 iso with 24-70. Why are they as good as the first ones I posted, with a higher iso and at 2.8 instead of 2.0 in the same gym.

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Dec 14, 2012 11:57 |  #9

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Why are they as good as the first ones I posted, with a higher iso and at 2.8 instead of 2.0 in the same gym.

Two reasons that come to mind. First, that f/2.8 lens probably has much faster autofocus than the 85. I'm not sure which lens you used, but the Canon f/2.8 glass is faster. And second, f/2.0 is a very narrow depth of field, so you don't have to be off your mark much and your subject is out of focus, and/or its narrow enough to not be able to get a whole player in focus depending on other conditions. The difference in ISO is going to give you a little more noise, but you are trading off for better sharpness due to the different optics.


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Dec 15, 2012 10:38 |  #10

I did a quick look at DOF Calculator.
- When you used the zoom at about 60mm (about what the sample was shot at) at f2.8 (with the subject at an estimated 5 meters away) you get ,75 meter depth of field.
- With your 85mm lens at f2 (same subject distance) you get .263 meter depth of field. At 3 meter subject distance the DOF is chopped to .095 meter.

Focal length and aperture make a huge difference, especially at close shooting distances.


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Dec 16, 2012 22:40 |  #11

Here is a full size piece of that pic, Just seems like a lot of noise to overcome. Is that why my focus is off. Or is it something else.

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