What do you guys think is the best DSLR out there today for film making?

Not worrying about the price, which DSLR (regardless of brand) do you guys think gives the user more control and creativity while having good dynamic range and other important features built in?

You should know.. you own 2 of them!

http://www.blackmagicd​esign.com …s/blackmagiccin​emacamera/

Even available in EF mount.

Drozz119 wrote in post #15346925
You should know.. you own 2 of them!

The dynamic range kinda sucks on 5D3 to be honest. And 60fps at 1080p would've been nice.. but i think it only does that on 720p.. just wondering if there is a better dslr out there in terms of better dynamic range and faster fps at 1080p.

Edit: ^ damn that looks nice!

30 fps with the Black Magic, but it shoots in 12bit raw.

5W0L3 wrote in post #15346954
The dynamic range kinda sucks on 5D3 to be honest. And 60fps at 1080p would've been nice.. but i think it only does that on 720p.. just wondering if there is a better dslr out there in terms of better dynamic range and faster fps at 1080p.

Edit: ^ damn that looks nice!

Have you tried cinestyle yet? It seems to give another 1-1.5 stops. Yea..I was hoping for 60fps @ 1080 too.

We thought about buying a blackmagic because of the 2.5k..but thought it wouldn't work for us because:
Workflow- 2.5k is only in raw. Storage and computer upgrades would be 5-6 thousand
High ISO- 800 and above looks pretty noisy
Small sensor- 2.5 crop..DOF
Lack of wide angle options- 11mm has a 25mm FOV

from what little i've seen, panny GH3 footage looks pretty darn good and does 1080 60p. here's an unscientific side-by-side with the 5d3. GH3 seems to edge out the Canon in sharpness and DR, but, personally, i liked the overall look of the Canon footage more.

https://vimeo.com/5506​0120

i like cinestyle, and you might want to check out the flaat presets for more perceived DR as well.

http://www.similaar.co​m …picture-styles/index.html

Not DSLR, but what about Canons Cx00 range? The C300 has been well received and the specs on the C100 seem to indicate all of the advantages of DSLR video with none of the issues of taking video with a DSLR.

I am fully in agreement with comments above regarding swapping to a RAW workflow. I have no doubt it will be the norm in years to come but represents a significant jump in storage requirements.

Cine style plus Magic Lantern and you can make things look a lot better with increased bitrates and DR, only downer is that ML isn't out for the 5D3 yet.

Reduction in storage requirement, actually, compared to professional codecs that run hundreds of megabits to store an image of similar quality as Raw. The silly H.264 codec that consumer cameras use isn't even an option, it's great for distribution, but horrible for capture; 100mbps I-frame 4:2:2 is borderline minimum.

Must say the 5D mk3 isn't too bad but the 1Dx is much better. It doesnt have the softness issue and is a better in low light. Probably another 1.5 stops all settings being the same. My only complaint is the lack of headphone out. One reason I'm hanging on the the 5 is the upcoming firmware update that will give it clean hdmi out. I then plan on recording to an Atomos Ninja 2.
All that said, THE best DSLR for video will be the 1Dc which will add 4k video. There are much cheaper and better video cameras but sticking to the OP's question, there really will be no contest.

No argument that the 1DC will be the best HDSLR hands down, but that really isn't saying much... for the same price you're already within spitting distance of a Sony F5, which will blow the 1DC out of the water on every front, despite being roughly the same size and weight.
You can get a new RED Scarlet kit for the same price too. The Sony F3 is also dropping in price like a brick because of the F5, you can find them being sold with options starting as low as $6000, very nice camera if 1080p is enough for your needs. The only advantage the 1DC has is that it's a kick-ass stills camera, but then you can simply buy the regular 1DX and an F3 and have the best of both worlds.

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #15348115
No argument that the 1DC will be the best HDSLR hands down, but that really isn't saying much... for the same price you're already within spitting distance of a Sony F5, which will blow the 1DC out of the water on every front, despite being roughly the same size and weight.
You can get a new RED Scarlet kit for the same price too. The Sony F3 is also dropping in price like a brick because of the F5, you can find them being sold with options starting as low as $6000, very nice camera if 1080p is enough for your needs. The only advantage the 1DC has is that it's a kick-ass stills camera, but then you can simply buy the regular 1DX and an F3 and have the best of both worlds.

The reason the 1Dc interests me so much is my job is a 50/50 split between still and video work. And I am heavily loaded with Canon glass. Bringing one camera to do both jobs is a huge help. I'm essentially doing the same with the 1Dx and it's great. Adding 4K to the mix would be even better.

I did look closely at the Scarlet as it can do rather nice stills work too but there is so much post workflow to chew through to get video out of it. And the recording media is ridiculously priced. And I did price out a shootable kit based on a few friends who have the Scarlet and no matter what you're in $20K minimum. And that's with the recent price drop!

For a lot of situations though I still rely on my XF300 and it's broadcast 4:2:2 codec. Still destroys all the current DSLR's for video when it comes right down to it.

XF300 is a wonderful camera, people often forget how useful camcorders can be for everyday tasks, I prefer to use them myself actually; It's hard to wean yourself off zooms with massive focal range.

Yes, RED cameras do tend to be expensive as you need quite a few accessories to make them actually work, but dSLRs also need add-ons to be workable too; shoulder pad, rails, follow focus, magnifier, monitor, etc., all the same stuff. So in the end you'll spend a lot on either system, in which case, choice of new camera comes down to which accessories you already have sans lenses.

Post workflow honestly isn't very different from shooting Raw with any still camera, just import the files you shoot, process them in RCX pro as you would in a typical Raw converter (only difference is that this one has a timeline) and output to a codec appropriate for editing in an NLE. Red files used to require voodoo a long time ago to make them work, but nowadays it's a lot simpler; you can even load them into Photoshop now!

In case anyone is interested, a review of a pre-production 1DC in the field, here: http://stillmotionblog​.com/2012/10/03/canon-1dc/

As I've said before, the lack of Raw video is actually more of a burden on memory, as the MJPEG 4K of the 1DC eats 4GB per minute vs. 2.5GB of the RED cameras. Advantages include more battery life and cheaper memory though.

1DC