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Sunset - Tips?

 
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Dec 17, 2012 11:18 |  #1

Hi Guys,

I've always had trouble with shooting sunsets. Below are a couple of shots:

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What do i think i should have done to have got a better picture? The sun did not appear as a circle but rather as a big light source... In my opinion, if i was able to get a circular sun, the picture would have been much nicer... Any tips?

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This picture is just dull... Looking at that sunset in real life was spectacular, but having it in a picture didnt give the same impact. Any ideas or tips.

Thanks in advance!

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Dec 17, 2012 13:08 |  #2

Cameras don't have the same ability as the eye to capture all the light from brightest to darkest in one shot. In the 2nd you are shooting at a smaller aperture (I would think - didn't check exif data) and/or faster shutter speed than the first. It allows less light into the camera giving you a rounder sun but less light everywhere else. Metering for the foreground will blow out the sun into a larger blob as more light is hitting the sensor. To get the best of both worlds you need to bracket your shots by using a tripod and setting the aperture you want (f11 or 16 for landscape) and adjusting your shutter speed. You then combine these in post.

Also - #1 would be better with a level horizon.


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Dec 17, 2012 13:14 as a reply to  @ James33's post |  #3

Do some research on using neutral density and graduated neutral density filters, you will be able to tone down the sun while captureing the foreground in the correct exposure, essentially balancing the two. The other option is to blend multiple images as suggested.


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Dec 19, 2012 12:40 |  #4

Everyone shoots sunsets at one point...I do still. :-) They're tough to balance though. As mentioned above, bracket a few shots and layer them in photoshop later, or what I do sometimes is spot meter on a part of the sky that I want to make sure is correctly exposed and once I get that exposure I frame the shot and fire off a frame. Here's what I mean (definately not the best out there but I'm want to show you what I mean): (sorry for hijacking with one of my photos)

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I spot metered the sky above the "A" of my watermark where the blue starts transitioning to orange right below that almost horizontal contrail. One shot, since I didn't have my tripod with me. A little work in Lightroom to bring back a little detial in the foreground, a little shift to the right of the vibrance slider to bring out the colors in the sky a bit more to what it really looked like to my eyes and that was that....other than cropping. I was happy with the end result. Shot it with my Rebel XSi and Tamron 10-24mm @ f/11 and 24mm.

This typically requires patience though and the "right" sky for it. In both of your examples the sunset is....well....not that spectacular. There are clouds in the first (clouds are typically a good thing for sunsets because they make for some nice colors and patterns in the sky during that time) but the sky is only about 10% of the photo. In the 2nd, again there's a few stringy clouds but the sky isn't very dramatic. It may have been to your eyes, but remember as James said...a camera is not capable of seeing a range of light the same as our eye. I don't think there is yet to be a camera, or ever will be for that matter, that will match the dynamic range of our eyes.

You also need to know the limitations of your camera. Different cameras have different dynamic ranges, and thus will render those colors in the sky differently.

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Dec 19, 2012 14:15 |  #5

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This is beautiful.


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