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Huge dissapointment in 7D

 
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Dec 19, 2012 18:33 |  #76

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Good advice. Then again us Canadians are known to be polite and smart :D

Hey now, some of us Uhmerikans are too! :) Obviously some of that northern charm has to rub off on us from time to time :lol:


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Dec 19, 2012 21:18 |  #77

Well, the T2i and the 7D share the same sensor...sooo...it shouldn't be that different.

My brother just picked up his 7D and it was because he shot sports. Miles ahead of the T2i/T3i...




  
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Dec 19, 2012 21:41 |  #78

I have both the 7D and the T2i. From an auto-exposure and IQ standpoint they are nearly identical.
The image you have here is a difficult one. You have a glaring light source on the right in the frame and a face on the left side. The lighting in the room is probably near 8-10 stops difference from one end to the other. No matter what you do, the image is either going to have part severely overexposed or severely underexposed. What you need is more light on the left side to make this image right.

I don't understand the AF problem unless you were using slow glass and outside AF points on the darker part of the scene. The T2i is actually inferior in this situation. The best thing you could do with this would be to have a speedlight and bounce it and have the focus assist beam on which would improve AF performance a lot.

However, if you are still terribly disappointed, I'll trade you my T2i, 18-55 f3.5-5.6 IS kit lens and throw in a Canon 55-250 IS (nifty 250) for the 7D body. :-)


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Dec 19, 2012 22:24 |  #79

I think we're getting somewhere now...

It was reverse for me a few yrs ago - looked great in Lr3 but my then browser (Firefox) showed ugly blotchy coloration until I was told to delete my ICC profile... I realized they looked fine in Windows Explorer so for me it was a Firefox corruption, which happened at least one more time and switched to Crome. No issue in 2 yrs now.

Of course one day I'll get wise and get real color calibration software...

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Just an observation that corrupted ICC color profiles can really screw with things, and introduce all sorts of image degradation that isn't really there.

My workstation is a Win 7 LR4 dual monitor setup, and for a while I was unable to figure out why my primary monitor (Dell 2209WA) was displaying blotchy images with horrible color depth and posterization) in Lightroom, but not in other applications. Deleting, or reverting the ICC color profiles in Windows 7 color management resolved the problem nicely.


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Dec 19, 2012 22:36 |  #80

So its only been 4 days & your disappointed? Your not being fair.
I've my my 7D for a few hours, while my T3i is now gathering dust.
These 2 are night and day different in the controls and set up. This 7D is going to be a big learning curve. I'm not even looking at any of my pictures off camera till I learn all these new settings and features.
I think your expecting too much too fast. Give it time and learn this new camera that doesnt have the automatic and scenes.
I had just gotten good with the T3i's controls and everything is now in different places.
Now I have to read myself to sleep with a new freeking manual




  
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Dec 19, 2012 22:45 |  #81

Give the OP some credit. New camera, new learning curve. The 7D is a prosumer camera and I do know a lot of regular people, such as mom, sister, dad, that do not like this camera (been there done that). It requires more manual control, more PP, more finesse, more involvement so everyone get their panties out of a bunch and help OP instead of bashing (the ones that did). Or, STFU.

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Dec 19, 2012 22:53 |  #82

TheFarmer wrote in post #15388070 (external link)
...It requires more manual control, more PP, more finesse, more involvement so everyone get their panties out of a bunch and help OP instead of bashing (the ones that did). Or, STFU.

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:cool: , and :cool:

and may I add, and I'm not trying to be an instigator, but :cool:


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Dec 19, 2012 23:05 |  #83

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:cool: , and :cool:

and may I add, and I'm not trying to be an instigator, but :cool:

:cool::cool:


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Dec 19, 2012 23:48 |  #84

Might be late to the party, but I'm betting this is user error just from reading the OP. Try learning all the functions of the camera first and how to properly use it. Also look up stuff on post processing as taking the picture is just half the step. I've used a 7D before and the 7D is definitely in a different league than the body you had before. It's aimed at a different demographic as the rebels are more point-and-shoot friendly for starters.


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Dec 20, 2012 00:26 as a reply to  @ post 15386263 |  #85

What's happened to all those other pics we were supposed to see?


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Dec 20, 2012 00:52 |  #86

I picked up my 7D at the Canon Thanksgiving refurb sale. It had about 140 clicks on it. I wonder how many of these 7Ds were returned by people frustrated when the camera refused to cooperate right out of the box.


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Dec 20, 2012 00:59 |  #87

haggy38 wrote in post #15386795 (external link)
Another 7D hater because a couple of pictures. Why these people don't read the manual and accept they are not a experts photographers, as they think most of the time. All these guys will understand, this is a genuine user error!! " I hate the 7d" " 7d is faulty" " My 7d is garbage" etc.

The 7d has a leaning curve to master and take advantage of his true potential, unless the camera is factory damage. PLEASE take your time before bashing the 7d, a few bad photos don't say anything, support on this forum, is full of knowledge and then avaluate.:mad:


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I'm not a 'hater'..... I really want to learn. I think I was just rather disappointed last night when what I thought were going to be good photos turned into something else.


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Dec 20, 2012 01:01 |  #88

rrblint wrote in post #15388295 (external link)
What's happened to all those other pics we were supposed to see?

Sorry was out a bit late.

Finally had a chance to upload a few of the images. I will start with those then with the rest of the story.

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Dec 20, 2012 01:08 |  #89

So the girlfriend took the camera to the shop that I bought it from. I managed to get off work early so I went down there to meet up with her and see what they had to say.

Something I might not have mentioned was that this was a used body. It's in beautiful shape but was used.

I handed it over to a couple of the guys there to look at the pictures. They agreed that the red's looked a bit high in places. We took a bunch of test shots of things with red and things without red. The camera functioned perfectly until red was introduced into the picture.

I know I am a total newbie when it comes to histograms but I did do some reading today so I know that the further right on the histogram the more over exposed it is. Every thing that we shot that had red in it, the red channel in the histogram would be much more weighted towards the right side while the green and blue seemed to track fairly consistant.

The store had another used 7d sitting there so we grabbed that. Set all the settings the same and took a few reference pictures with that body. WOW what a difference. The reds were more true to what the naked eye saw, when looking at the histogram there wasn't the shift to the right with the red.. It was amazing. The employees at the store saw it as well and couldn't explain what was going on.

Long story short... they excanged camera bodies with me. So I am sitting here typing with a new(used) 7D body that seems to be functioning much better than the original.

Is there still user error???? Of course. I know I have a long long way to go before I can say I know how to use this new camera. I'm just hoping that the big fat guy in the red suit looked at my amazon wish list..... (books about the camera)


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Dec 20, 2012 01:43 |  #90

tlbjornson wrote in post #15388376 (external link)
Sorry was out a bit late.

Finally had a chance to upload a few of the images. I will start with those then with the rest of the story.

1) Shutter speed too slow and white balance too warm.

2) Same as 1; shutter too slow and WB off.

3) Same, shutter too slow and WB off.

4) The lights look overexposed so they lack detail.

5) Underexposed and you missed focus (assuming you wanted to focus on the face).

6) Looks front focused.

I'm not sure any of these are a fault of the body, or that your other camera would have produced a different outcome.


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