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Dec 15, 2012 13:32 |  #1

Canon 85mm f/1.8 on a FF body for Portraits?

Finding the Canon 50mm f1.4 a little short for my style of shooting, feel like I'm in the subjects face all the time. Have been using my 70-200 f4 but need something faster.

Looking to replace my 50mm f1.4 which I would be sad to see go as its an awesome lens, super sharp and and fast focus, so its important its replaced with the right lens.

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Dec 15, 2012 13:37 |  #2

If you already own the 50 and plan on keeping it I'd go with the 100 f2, 50 and 85 are fairly close.

If you do get rid of the 50, I'd get the 85.


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Dec 15, 2012 13:57 |  #3

Thanks,

I am looking to sell the 50mm to fund the next lens.
So, are you saying the 85mm is the answer?




  
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Dec 15, 2012 13:58 |  #4

Either one would be great.

If you think you might eventually add a 135/2 (which also is particularly nice for portraits and FF), I'd say go with the 85mm.

If you would prefer a single lens, then split the difference and get the 100mm.

I would not see it as a replacement for the 50/1.4, unless you recently went from a crop camera to the FF camera and with the cropper tended to use the 50/1.4 almost exclusively for portraiture. In that case, the 85/1.8 is the closest replacement for the 50mm on a crop camera.

You can test it yourself with your zoom. Simply use a piece of tape to secure the zoom in 85mm position for a few days shooting and see how you like it... then repeat the process with the zoom set to 100mm. Either of the primes will give you considerably bigger aperture and more control over depth of field/background blur, of course.... but this can give you a feel for the particular focal lengths and how they work for you.


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Dec 15, 2012 14:04 |  #5

amfoto1 wrote in post #15370437 (external link)
Either one would be great.

If you think you might eventually add a 135/2 (which also is particularly nice for portraits and FF), I'd say go with the 85mm.

135/2 L ......... Only in my dreams :lol:




  
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Dec 15, 2012 15:12 |  #6

I currently have the 85 1.8 and it is fantastic for portraits. I have a 50 as well, and I plan on adding the 135L in the near future for more compressed portraits and head shots.


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Dec 15, 2012 15:26 |  #7

Get the 85. It is the ideal portrait lens for a good reason. Distortion begins to occur on anything above, like widening of the jaw, because of the compression/distance. Anything wider distorts in the opposite effect.

When all is said and done however, those little technical details are nothing. No one notices distortion to that small of a degree. The 85 wins for practicality as well. It is simply more versatile.

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Dec 15, 2012 16:03 |  #8

I've got both on a crop body, the 85 has seen more use the last month or so, but I wouldn't give up the 50. I can't say much either way for the 100 f2, I figured when I got to that point in my prime expansion that I'd be better off with the 2.8 Macro for a little more variety. Take a look in the lens sample thread to get a feel for the sharpness and look of the bokeh.


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Dec 15, 2012 16:19 |  #9

Best choice for FF in my opinion is the 135mm f2. Outstanding portriait lens. An excellent second choice if you wish to spend less is the 100mm f2. I have the 100mm f2 and the 100mm 2.8 IS. The f2 is a better portrait lens.




  
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Dec 15, 2012 16:20 |  #10
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My advice is don't try to cut corners.

I've owned Canon 85 1.8, Sigma 85 1.4, 135L, 70-200f4. And what happens to all of them? All sold and being replaced by the greatest 70-200f2.8II!

No point to run around in circles. Get the best and keep it for life.

If that means saving for a few more months, so be it.


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Dec 15, 2012 16:39 |  #11

In reality... what you like best is what is best.

I tried all the "legendary" lenses.

The 135L - Owned it. Was too long to be useful often, relegated to a specialty lens, also required 1/200 shutter speed for me to be able to get sharp images frequently, which was sometimes hard to achieve and resulted in higher ISOs.

The 70-200 II - Rented a dozen times for weddings. Was wonderful, took very sharp, contrasty images, but they lacked the "3d" "magic" look of the 135L and 85L. Also very very expensive and heavy.

The 85L II - Rented a dozen+ times for portraits/weddings. Was incredible, very sharp, "3d" "magical" photos @ 1.2 and 1.4, but so very expensive and the autofocus was too slow to capture some of my faster-moving subjects.

The 35L - Owned it. For one, it wasn't as sharp as my 35 f2($250 lens) @ f2 in the center, and was only a little sharper in the corners. My 35 f2 was equally sharp all over from f2.8 and up. It was also a little too "dreamy"(soft) for my tastes at f1.4.

I ended up with the sigma 85 as my main portrait lens because I loved how sharp it was at f1.4, I loved the look of the background bokeh and the fast autofocus and the $1000 cheaper than 85L II price!

I ended up with the sigma 70-200 OS as my portrait/event zoom because it looks great at 200mm f2.8 and has very nice image stabilization and an excellent price.

I ended up with the sigma 35 as my wide angle low light lens because it's significantly sharper than the 35L, cheaper, I prefer the bokeh, and it's a focal length that I enjoy and think pairs perfectly with the 85.

My point is that I had to go through a dozen of the "best" recommended lenses before I found:

A.) The subject you most enjoy taking photos of, portraits for me.
B.) The focal lengths that I most enjoy: 35mm, 85mm, 200mm, and ultra-super-wide 14mm.
C.) The "look" you like to get from your photos(how big does that aperture need to get?)
D.) How much are you willing to spend?

Once you know those things you can really get a final lens setup.

If I were you, I would rent a couple really nice lenses like a 24-70 mk ii and a 70-200 mk ii and shoot with them like crazy for a week, then look back at your photos and see what focal lengths you used most frequently, THEN buy what you'll really stick with rather than going through a ton of lenses like I did.


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Dec 15, 2012 16:39 |  #12

It all depends on your personal preference. You've got a 70-200, so you can choose the focal length that you like the best. I chose 100mm when I had a crop camera, but I don't care for it nearly as much on a FF camera. I want the 135 now. I obviously prefer the longer focal lengths.


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Dec 15, 2012 16:58 |  #13

Really helpful replies, thanks to all that posted.

Looks like 85mm Canon f1.8 (new) or possibly Sigma f1.4 (used).




  
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Dec 15, 2012 17:58 |  #14

I would keep the 50mm if you already have it as it's a really useful focal range. You can pair the 50 with the 100mm. Or you can sell the 50mm, get an 85mm, and get a 35 or 135mm in the future. I personally prefer something longer and wider than 50mm so I went with the 35/85/135 plan.


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Dec 21, 2012 15:29 |  #15

100mm f2 arrived today, this time its a keeper!




  
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