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wide angle photography - advice on possible upgrade 5d M3 from 7d

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Dec 23, 2012 03:58 |  #1

i have 2 7d's and have been very happy with them but on my last outing i noticed that even the 10-22mm lense wasn't wide enough for certain landscapes (weird i know)

now i don't want the fisheye or stitching so i need options

i am now thinking of trading both 7d's in for a 5d M3 which i am sure most would a gree to be a positive.

the 10-22mm lens won't fit on a full frame so i will have to sell that and have been thinking of what to do.

from research the best option is the canon 14mm 2.8 i believe. a little bit wider.

the Zeiss are not auto focus and the canon 8-15mm is a fisheye.

if i am missing something or if you have and advice/thoughts please let me know.


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Dec 23, 2012 05:07 |  #2

while I haven't used it, the sigma 12 -24 may be an option.

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Dec 23, 2012 05:33 |  #3

Might be cheaper to just stitch 2 photos together. ;)

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Dec 23, 2012 05:37 |  #4

Sigma makes an 8-16 for crop. That's as wide as you're going to get. (external link)

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Dec 23, 2012 05:41 |  #5

my 2 cents you'd probably be better stitching instead much wider than you are your going to end up with fisheye(ish) distortion.

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Dec 23, 2012 06:15 |  #6

Well there's also the samyang 14mm 2.8, which is extraordinarily good for the price. That would save you a nice chunk of change.

But I too would say stitching would be the better option.

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Dec 23, 2012 11:06 |  #7

I'd try the 8-16 first.

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Dec 23, 2012 11:12 |  #8

If you really want full frame I would sell one 7d for a 5dmk2, so you can have full frame body and 1.6 crop body because do you really need the auto focus of the 5dmk3


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Dec 23, 2012 11:19 |  #9

Sigma upgraded their 12-24mm SWA and, except for having to work with the smaller apertures, there was nothing wrong with the earlier version (which I have) except the problems endemic with any SWA.

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Dec 23, 2012 11:44 |  #10

Trying to go wider than 10mm on crop or 16mm on full frame, you will see heavy wide angle distortions. It won't be as extreme as a fisheye, but it's just optically impossible to correct it all away.

The best solution, besides some highly specialized cameras that swing the lens while the shutter is open, or somthing similar, is stitching. That doesn't need to be all that complicated.... This image is a quick, three-image composite that was done on the spur of the moment at a client's request...


This was shot with 7D, Tokina 12-24 (not set at it's widest focal length, tho I don't recall exactly where I set it). The hedge seen toward either lower corner actually runs straight across right in front of where I was standing to take the shots, so this is nearly a 180 degree angle of view. The center of the image was kept open for a title to be added later (about where my watermark is seen here).

It was dead simple to combine the images in Photoshop. The biggest problem? There was someone walking across the scene as I was making the three separate shots (handheld), and they showed up three times in the final image. A little cloning fixed that! After stitching, the edges of the final image are always jagged and curved, so I allowed a bit of extra room framing the three original shots, to be able to crop the final composite to a wide rectangle.

If you want to go crazy with stitching, check out "gigapan" photography, where as many as 200 and more images are combined into a single image that's a full gigabyte or more. There's (external link) website, which, among others, features some of the work of George Lepp (external link). He often uses a telephoto, such as a 70-200 zoom, to make a fantastic, huge, very wide images. He's also experimented with macro gigpan.

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