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How high would you push the ISO?

 
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Dec 19, 2012 22:26 |  #1

Hey Guys

looking for a bit of advice

Im shooting soccer (football) tomorrow night and I would usually use my Sigma 120-400mm during the day but this is a Evening/Night game ... Knowing im only allowed to shoot from one corner I know I have the reach but its the ISO i worry about .. i'll be trying to keep the shutter speed at 800-1000th ... and the lowest my apature will go is 5.6 .... So how high would you run the ISO?

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Dec 19, 2012 23:04 |  #2

Which camera bodies are you using?


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Dec 19, 2012 23:26 |  #3

As high as it will go to expose correctly, if you underexpose and push exposure in editing you'll make it even worse.

That being said if your body will only go up to 1600 chances are high you'll be under exposing.


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Dec 20, 2012 00:14 as a reply to  @ joeblack2022's post |  #4

sorry should have mentioned im shooting on a 60d .. we are on daylight savings here so it wont be dark till later but the lighting at this stadium would be the equivalent to a good US high school or average college .. its parramatta studium for the aussies reading this :)


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Dec 20, 2012 00:22 |  #5

up to 6400 as long as it isn't underexposed at that setting, but probably 2500 to 3200 will likely be fine.


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Dec 20, 2012 03:26 |  #6

jay.johnsonau wrote in post #15388021 (external link)
Hey Guys

looking for a bit of advice

Im shooting soccer (football) tomorrow night and I would usually use my Sigma 120-400mm during the day but this is a Evening/Night game ... Knowing im only allowed to shoot from one corner I know I have the reach but its the ISO i worry about .. i'll be trying to keep the shutter speed at 800-1000th ... and the lowest my apature will go is 5.6 .... So how high would you run the ISO?

Thanks
Jay

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Dec 20, 2012 03:50 |  #7

Push the iso as high as you need to get the shot.

My typical settings for rugby (or soccer at the same oval) are 6400iso at f4 - shutter speed around 1/500-1/640 from memory
That said - in shooting with a mk4
Back when i had a mk2n i used to just max it out to 3200 (in fact i think i only shot it at 100, 800 and 3200)


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Dec 20, 2012 04:03 |  #8

I don't care how ugly the noise gets, I'm going to favor shutter speed. Unintentional motion blur sucks.


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Dec 20, 2012 06:44 |  #9

jay.johnsonau wrote in post #15388021 (external link)
Hey Guys

looking for a bit of advice

Im shooting soccer (football) tomorrow night and I would usually use my Sigma 120-400mm during the day but this is a Evening/Night game ... Knowing im only allowed to shoot from one corner I know I have the reach but its the ISO i worry about .. i'll be trying to keep the shutter speed at 800-1000th ... and the lowest my apature will go is 5.6 .... So how high would you run the ISO?

Thanks
Jay

I don't think you will be able to make this work unless the lights are very bright. Football shooters usually struggle with f/2.8 glass to get that shutter speed even at high ISO. You are talking about 2 full stops less light. I think you are going to have to drop your shutter speed back to 1/400-1/500, then push ISO to get exposure right. It will be a trade off.

I would go to 25,600 on the 5D3 if I had to. I am not sure how the 60D does over 6400. You can try it at 12,800 and see what you get.


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Dec 20, 2012 08:00 |  #10

DC Fan wrote in post #15388529 (external link)
Using ISO 6400 is eased when noise reduction software is employed. Imagenomic Noiseware (external link) was applied to these ISO 6400 images.

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Careful, images will start to look like crap if too much is applied.


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Dec 20, 2012 14:29 |  #11

As high as I have to go to get a sharp, well exposed photo.


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Dec 20, 2012 14:30 |  #12

Noise can be removed. Motion blur cannot.

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Dec 24, 2012 13:02 |  #13

DC Fan wrote in post #15388529 (external link)
Using ISO 6400 is eased when noise reduction software is employed. Imagenomic Noiseware (external link) was applied to these ISO 6400 images.

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iso 6400 on the 60D looks pretty good




  
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Dec 25, 2012 12:49 |  #14

i push it as high as i need it to be. the noise may get ugly but a post here in POTN about how to PP noise helped me a lot.


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Dec 26, 2012 18:11 |  #15

first half was great .. 2nd half was OK ... was happy when the client asked me to capture the crowd as there team was up 6-1 most the 2nd half .... client was happy I am thinking about using 400 2.8 for the next one .. although your restricted to not being able to shoot full body when close but we'll see how we go .. thanks or all the responses :)


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