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Switching to full frame, lens Q's?

 
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Dec 21, 2012 10:28 |  #1

I'm thinking I may be switching to a full frame body in the near future, and looking for advice in how to update my lenses.


My current lens setup is:
opteka fisheye (wouldn't work on a ff body)
Tamron 17-50 2.8 non vc (wouldn't work on a ff body)
helios 58mm adapted m42 mount (would it work?)
canon 70-200 f4

I would sell the tamron and the opteka, and need a lens to replace the focal range of the tamron, a new fisheye would come later down the road.

I'd like to stay around $600 ish:

24-70 is probably out of my price range
24-105 seems like a good option, similar effective focal length to my tamron on a crop body, although f4 is kind of slow, maybe this and a fast prime would be good
17-40 is another option, also f4, this would be wider than the tamron, which i'm not sure if that's a good thing or not


I shoot mainly sports, skiing is my main sport, but I dabble in other areas as well

I guess what I'm really looking for are suggestions about which lens would replace the tamron 17-50, I'm definitely open to non-canon glass, too.

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Dec 21, 2012 10:33 |  #2

The 24-105 is such a versatile lense on a full frame camera. It will replace the tamron in terms of function. F4 isnt ideal, but as you mention if you want a low light bokeh monster you should be looking at a fast prime anyway. The 17-40 is a nice ultrawide on the ff body, for the way I use it F4 really isnt an issue.




  
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Dec 21, 2012 10:37 |  #3

The big things that surprised me when going from my 7D to the 5DIII were:

the 70-200 is now a good walkaround... it's not as long as it used to be though.
24mm all of the sudden became pretty dang wide.


I went with the 17-40 for the wide end, and really like that, but I shoot a lot of sports, as you do, as well... I do really miss the reach that the 70-200 used to have, so it's a bit different shooting baseball and autocross now....


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Dec 21, 2012 10:43 |  #4

I would wait and put the money into nicer glass first. IMHO the main expense in FF is good glass to utilize it.

If you want to make the move though I would humbly recommend a 50mm prime as a nice walk around


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Dec 21, 2012 10:53 |  #5

jerbear00 wrote in post #15393430 (external link)
I would wait and put the money into nicer glass first. IMHO the main expense in FF is good glass to utilize it.

If you want to make the move though I would humbly recommend a 50mm prime as a nice walk around

I understand completely where you're coming from on this recc,
I'm shooting on a t2i right now, and I really only see the next step up in IQ as a FF body
I'm thinking about going for something like 5dii, 24-105 and a fast 50 or 35




  
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Dec 26, 2012 14:38 |  #6

Sklar, this is one of the problems I'm having with contemplating going to FF too. Right now I shoot with the Canon 15-85mm 90% of the time (I also have the Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 and the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8)... and with FF, there's no equivalent lens. The 24-105mm lens is close, but it's really only a 15-65mm crop equivalent. The 28-135mm IS lens almost covers the same range, but it's not as wide and the IQ and focus speed isn't as good.

I've come to the conclusion that for skiing shots (and a lot of landscape ones, too), you'll be relegated to taking multiple lenses if you want to get the shot every time- that's not something I want to do. As long as you don't mind carrying around two lenses, the 24-105mm and 70-200mm should be a nice combo. Personally, I don't find the improvement in IQ or anything else worth the cost and the hassles associated in replacing my current setup. If Canon had technology that allowed for what Nikon has- the ability to use a crop lens on a FF body- it would make things easier for me. :)


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Dec 26, 2012 17:44 |  #7

Better lenses will give you better IQ. Best road is likely to work on some nice glass right now and worry about the FF body later. You'll have the lenses for it then :)

What will a FF do that you can't do now? If it's just an IQ issue, then glass will help. Mind you, I have found the Tamron 17-50 non-VC to be quite good - as are some of your other lenses.




  
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Dec 26, 2012 17:54 |  #8

The 24-105 is a great lens on a full frame. I have one but rarely use it (because of other lenses) but cannot seem to bring myself to sell it because it is just so handy to have. As a versatile walkaround on a full frame it is pretty darn hard to beat.


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Dec 26, 2012 18:15 |  #9

Think larger, heavier and more expensive......


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Dec 27, 2012 00:23 |  #10

If you're looking for something to replace your tamron 17-50 under $600...maybe the tamron 28-75 f2.8 might be worth a thought


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Dec 27, 2012 01:25 |  #11

The Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 is a decent alternative to the Canon model, but is a couple of hundred over your limit. Same for the 24-105 ... excellent choice but considerably more than $600.

If I had a hard limit of $600 to spend I'd probably go with a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 or Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 and replace it with a Canon 24-105 f/4 as soon as it was affordable. Either that or I'd live with just having a 50mm f/1.4.


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Dec 27, 2012 02:44 as a reply to  @ Bob_A's post |  #12

Whatever you do, don't sell your Hellios, it's a great lens and will work fine on full frame, even 5D and will be a true 58mm. :cool:


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Dec 27, 2012 04:15 as a reply to  @ killwilly's post |  #13

Just a point about the helios lens.
I am not sure on this but you ought to check that there is no problem with the back of the lens hitting the mirror of the full-frame 5D.
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Dec 27, 2012 04:53 |  #14

Watch out where you buy the 24-105mm is all I can say. There are two different options from Amazon. From Amazon, it is $1100. From a 3rd party retailer on Amazon, it is ~$850 from a very reputable merchant. This lens is selling "new" from individuals all day at about ~$750 (people who received the lens as a kit and are selling it). Huge price differences on a new lens. Even a used copy of it, though, sells for $650-700. Something to consider.




  
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