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Dec 26, 2012 17:53 |  #16

The 6d isnt really meant as an upgrade for 5d2 owners though is it?

I think I would chose the 6d over the 5d2 if I had to but I wouldnt upgrade to it without reason.


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Dec 26, 2012 17:57 |  #17

RobDickinson wrote in post #15410227 (external link)
The 6d isnt really meant as an upgrade for 5d2 owners though is it?

I think I would chose the 6d over the 5d2 if I had to but I wouldnt upgrade to it without reason.

The only reason would be better performance in low light situations if you need that. Otherwise, I think you're right. The MkII upgrade is the MkIII. The 6D is a different animal.


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Dec 26, 2012 17:58 |  #18

Bryan Who???


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Dec 26, 2012 18:00 |  #19

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Bryan Who???

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Its funny that the 6d is really what the 5d line was all about at the beginning.
Take a xxD body, put a FF sensor into it and tweak it just a little.

The 5d3 has grown up into a small pro body rather than a suped up cheapie.


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Dec 27, 2012 01:52 |  #20

All these talk about 6D's gave me an itchy finger. Pulled the trigger on one today. Exceptional price from a local dealer and a $300 cash back from Canon Australia on the 24-105 kit was too good to pass up.

Here's my first pic taken with the Sigma f1.4 35mm. Was so excited I didn't realise it was still in jpeg mode so this is SOOC.

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Dec 27, 2012 10:39 |  #21

M_Six wrote in post #15410226 (external link)
Bryan updated his noise images so that he now has 6D noise images scaled up to 5d MkIII size. I can't see that there is any discernible difference in noise.

I can still see a bit better image from the 6D. I am just happy that when I take the plunge the 6D has that kind of quality.


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Dec 27, 2012 15:53 |  #22

El Pedro wrote in post #15411477 (external link)
All these talk about 6D's gave me an itchy finger. Pulled the trigger on one today. Exceptional price from a local dealer and a $300 cash back from Canon Australia on the 24-105 kit was too good to pass up.

Here's my first pic taken with the Sigma f1.4 35mm. Was so excited I didn't realise it was still in jpeg mode so this is SOOC.

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Nice! Must be at 1.4 focused on the dogs eye.


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Dec 27, 2012 16:37 |  #23

That's right irishman. I'm loving the effect the 1.4 has.

I went out last night and took loads of photos, I think anyone upgrading from a crop will not be disappointed if they end up with the 6D. I can't believe how much more detail all the images have.




  
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Dec 28, 2012 01:06 |  #24

And people are crazy if they think the 6D is not an upgrade from the 5D2.


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Dec 28, 2012 05:21 |  #25

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I've read where folks who do lots of hiking are thrilled with the 6D's lower weight and size, plus the obvious advantage of built-in GPS for hiking. For them as well, the 6D is the way to go.

That's a factor for me... I bought my 6D kit yesterday.

Here's a weight comparison...
60D + EF-S 15-85 is 1394g.
6D + EF 24-105 is 1478g.

So for just 84 extra grams I get a larger sensor and better image quality with a nice ker-chunk of a shutter sound.

The 6D combination is very slightly longer, but basically the same size (I had checked in advance on camerasize.com, they let you compare bodies with lenses of your choice).

And my wallet feels lighter too now :)


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Dec 28, 2012 05:35 |  #26

irishman wrote in post #15415254 (external link)
And people are crazy if they think the 6D is not an upgrade from the 5D2.

The only upgrade it has for me would be improved ISO performance. I would be very hard pressed to get a 6D as my next body. I would rather get another 5D2 than a 6D.

The cons for me:

- same AF system (who cares about center point :roll eyes:)
- smaller body
- no joystick
- cheaper built body
- annoying rear wheel/dial combo
- button arrangement, just hate the way its laid out, used to using 2 hands to navigate through photos

The pros of the 6D:

- better ISO
- wifi/gps

I'm just arguing for arguments sake, I never had any intention of getting a 6D. Just find it funny when people call it an upgrade over the 5D2.


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Dec 28, 2012 05:41 |  #27

Horses for courses I guess. I don't see why a smaller body is a con, it would fall under the pro column for me, same as the button layout coming from a 60D it's very familiar to me.

What about the improved ability to focus in low light?

It is definitely an upgrade from the 5DII but probably not a big enough one to warrant selling up to current owners, especially considering the low price you can pick up a new one for now they've been discontinued.




  
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Dec 28, 2012 05:51 |  #28

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15415546 (external link)
The only upgrade it has for me would be improved ISO performance. I would be very hard pressed to get a 6D as my next body. I would rather get another 5D2 than a 6D.

The cons for me:

- same AF system (who cares about center point :roll eyes:)
- smaller body
- no joystick
- cheaper built body
- annoying rear wheel/dial combo
- button arrangement, just hate the way its laid out, used to using 2 hands to navigate through photos

The pros of the 6D:

- better ISO
- wifi/gps

I'm just arguing for arguments sake, I never had any intention of getting a 6D. Just find it funny when people call it an upgrade over the 5D2.

You forgot some pro's of the 6D:

- Better light metering
- Ability to use AFMA at both tele and wide end side
- 2 extra AF points
- Much more sensitive center point
- Slightly better dynamic range
- Less shutter lag (144 vs 206 ms)
- Higher framerate (4,5 vs 3,9 fps)
- Better LCD screen (1.040k dots vs 920k dots)

And I am probably still forgetting some...

Something that gives you better image quality is an upgrade in my opinion, even though the difference with the 5D2 isn't that huge (for some people).


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Dec 28, 2012 08:10 |  #29

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15415546 (external link)
I'm just arguing for arguments sake, I never had any intention of getting a 6D. Just find it funny when people call it an upgrade over the 5D2.

I'm pretty much in the same boat on this one... the 6D wasn't brought to market for me - and that's ok! I don't think Canon is marketing this to Pros with a 5D2 that will eventually need replacing...

I see it as a sort of a parallel upgrade - its a nice camera with some nice newer bells and whistles, but the important bells and whistles (to me at least) are missing or cut back, and those are just enough to keep most of my interest (and wallet) away from this one...


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Dec 28, 2012 11:45 |  #30

jocau wrote in post #15415575 (external link)
You forgot some pro's of the 6D:

- Better light metering
- Ability to use AFMA at both tele and wide end side
- 2 extra AF points
- Much more sensitive center point
- Slightly better dynamic range
- Less shutter lag (144 vs 206 ms)
- Higher framerate (4,5 vs 3,9 fps)
- Better LCD screen (1.040k dots vs 920k dots)

And I am probably still forgetting some...

Something that gives you better image quality is an upgrade in my opinion, even though the difference with the 5D2 isn't that huge (for some people).

All those are good points, and here are some more:
Ability to bracket up to 7 shots, not just 3. This is important to us in the southwest who shoot often in canyons with high contrast.
Two additional ISO stops.
Built in HDR
Built in composite feature
Larger pixel pitch
Silent shutter mode--great for wildlife
Locking mode dial--I REALLY like this!
Superior Live View operation
Increased battery life
Built-in horizon level
Chromatic aberration correction
Full Speedlight 600 control
63 zone metering (35 on 5D2)

And I am probably still forgetting some. . .


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