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Dec 28, 2012 14:45 |  #1321

tdodd wrote in post #15416727 (external link)
Here are the lighting recommendations for the latest release. Note that the minimum recommended light is now EV 8. It used to be EV 10. Personally I'd be striving for more than EV 10 if possible and have performed my calibrations outdoors to achieve that. Also, as most of my photography is outdoors I feel calibrating with daylight makes more sense for my needs than with tungsten lights....

Whoops, sorry, I knew they were in there, forgot what they were.

My latest test was with EV 11.9. Worked fine and was pretty consistent from test to test:

Here's a sample of a report using those settings with my Sigma 35mm on a 5Dm2.

https://dl.dropbox.com …I_222309144_35m​m_35mm.PDF (external link)


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Dec 28, 2012 15:59 |  #1322

The tests I tried were at 8.8EV. I just replaced a burned halogen bulb, so light output will double (500W). I can also place lights closer, so I should get to 10EV even with my slowest lens (70-200 f4). I have lots of room in the basement (13m). Outdoors is not workable right now - we are into snow storms, 15cm of white stuff in the backyard and counting.

My biggest mistake was not to cover the viewfinder. I'll fix that next time. Hopefully results will be much more consistent.

Do AF sensors accumulate dust? Perhaps a source of AF inconsistency? Can
I blow it off?


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Dec 28, 2012 22:42 |  #1323

I just bought FoCal Pro and am using the Mac version... went through all my Canon lenses this afternoon and it seemed to work very well. This was my first foray into microadjusting my lenses.


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Dec 29, 2012 04:41 |  #1324

convergent wrote in post #15418703 (external link)
I just bought FoCal Pro and am using the Mac version... went through all my Canon lenses this afternoon and it seemed to work very well. This was my first foray into microadjusting my lenses.

Mine don't work anymore. Did yesterday. WTF? I'm getting pretty tired with this.


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Dec 29, 2012 08:58 |  #1325

Franz-Olof wrote in post #15419243 (external link)
Mine don't work anymore. Did yesterday. WTF? I'm getting pretty tired with this.

Hopefully I don't have that problem. Did you install the correct version of that runtime environment? They ask for an older version than the one that defaults on the download site.


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Dec 29, 2012 09:18 |  #1326

Yes. Now I uninstalled everything and did everything fresh. Let's see...

Good (but mysterious) that it works for you.


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Dec 29, 2012 10:35 |  #1327

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Yes. Now I uninstalled everything and did everything fresh. Let's see...

Good (but mysterious) that it works for you.

I'm running Mountain Lion on a Macbook Air... and USB cable was attached directly to a USB port on the Air.... not going through a hub or anything.


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Dec 29, 2012 10:43 |  #1328

It seems to be running much more consistent way. I switched to the basement (concrete instead of carpet), put brighter lights (11EV with f2), and covered the viewfinder. I am running v1.6.0 under Win XP SP3. It tried different options, but "None"/"Many points" seems to be working the best - consistent results with minimum number of shots. My 135L is at -3...-4, Sigma 17-50 OS is at -4...-5 at 50mm and 5m, but changes to +2 at 17mm, 2.4m. It becomes better though when I increase the distance to 4.5m (at 17mm): -2. At 30mm it is -4.

So just having 50xFL distance is no guarantee that the MA converged to a fixed value.


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Dec 29, 2012 11:23 |  #1329

convergent wrote in post #15419982 (external link)
I'm running Mountain Lion on a Macbook Air... and USB cable was attached directly to a USB port on the Air.... not going through a hub or anything.

Mine is Macbook unibody late 2009 and Mountain Lion. USB directly also.

I have no light to test now. Will try tomorrow. Maybe it works every second day;)


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Dec 29, 2012 14:59 |  #1330

Hs anyone with a 6D with updated firmware running Mountain Lion successfully used this program?

I've tried everything now and still cannot get a result with any of my lenses.




  
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Dec 30, 2012 09:35 |  #1331

My tests now show convincingly that my main zoom, Sigma 17-50 OS, have a problem - a pretty wide range of MA going from 17 to 50mm, and also moving from closer (~2.5m) to farther (8m) distances. This is the same behavior (only less extreme) I observed in my previous zooms, Tamron 17 -50 non-VC, and my first copy of the Sigma.

I also can see (from other zooms, and couple of primes I tied, including with freshly SC-calibrated 135L), that my camera itself (50D) is a bit off - I consistently get MA around -3 point. My theory is that because the camera is off, my zooms have this complex MA behavior. The idea (and hope) is that if my camera was mechanically calibrated to MA=0, then MA for zooms will change much less with FL and distance.

But this is a 100$ + two two-hour round trips to Toronto idea. Before I do it, can anyone who used Focal for a mix of primes and "standard" zooms (17-5x for crop, 2x-7x for FF) on a single body comment on their findings here?


Specifically, if your primes are randomly scattered around MA=0 (suggesting the body is well calibrated), how do your standard zooms behave at different FL and distance - are they well behaving? Same for if you observe a situation similar to mine (primes are clustered around some non-zero MA, suggesting a mis-calibration in the camera) - how do your standard zooms behave?

A side note - it'd be terrific if the alternative firmware Magic Lantern added support for focus MA. (For now it is listed as "highly unlikely" or "not possible"). Then I can imagine one could easily add advanced MA features - e.g. it could be calibrated at two FL extremes in a zoom, and then interpolated in-between (like 1DX bodies do), or even do a two-D interpolation - at different FL and distances. I'd be willing to donate some money if Magic Lantern would even consider working in this direction. I think there is a place on their website where you can vote for new features. Probably this one:

http://magiclantern.wi​kia.com …Unified/Vote_fo​r_Features (external link)


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Dec 30, 2012 16:51 |  #1332

Does anyone have any data from Focal on a Sigma 50 f/1.4? I want to see how mine compares with sharpness and image quality through aperture ranges.

Thanks in advance!

Here is the best run I've had with mine.

https://dl.dropbox.com …143/50mm_sharpn​ess_test_2 (external link)

The first test I tried to manually focus and it was really bad.

https://dl.dropbox.com​/u/44561143/50mm_focal​_range (external link)


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Jan 04, 2013 11:34 as a reply to  @ Arob1000's post |  #1333

I ve NEVER Micro adjusted my lenses so please bare with me lol....I have a few questions on this Software. I currently own the 24-70l 2,8 VI and was curious if this might help my keeper rate if the lens shows to be off some during testing and also, I have several other lens, once calibrated, does the camera remember these MA setting or do they need to be reset after you change lenses. Thanks for any info, as i m a huge newbie with this lol


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Jan 04, 2013 11:55 |  #1334

I currently have an idea/procedure to microadjust lenses without these programs and can be done with any high contrast target at any distance. I am going to confirm my method (have done it before and worked well) but want to make sure its really repeatable and accurate. I then plan to write a PDF procedure and sell it very cheap, like $5.... Or free and just take donations... :)

It is very, very easy to do and can be done very quickly. Some minor limitations, but most wont have any issue. If it all works out it would save those who want to MA quite a bit of money and get even better results than Focal... Just without all the extra testing stuff!

Ill Keep everybody updated with my idea...


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Jan 04, 2013 12:18 |  #1335

Invertalon wrote in post #15443856 (external link)
I currently have an idea/procedure to microadjust lenses without these programs and can be done with any high contrast target at any distance. I am going to confirm my method (have done it before and worked well) but want to make sure its really repeatable and accurate. I then plan to write a PDF procedure and sell it very cheap, like $5.... Or free and just take donations... :)

It is very, very easy to do and can be done very quickly. Some minor limitations, but most wont have any issue. If it all works out it would save those who want to MA quite a bit of money and get even better results than Focal... Just without all the extra testing stuff!

Ill Keep everybody updated with my idea...

Steve you tell me this after I just bought FoCal yesterday.:)

Question To FoCal experts, it says print the target on Matte Paper with InkJet. I only got access to laser printer with regular paper. Would that work? If no where do you guys get the target printed.

I just started my first forway into MA with Arash's method using EOS utility.


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