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Would I "get away with" a 60D + 70-200 f2.8 IS

 
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Dec 29, 2012 21:31 |  #1

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I am currently a nightlife photographer/portrait-esque stuff and have managed to save enough cash for the rather lovely 70-200mm f2.8 mkii IS canon lens.

Thing is, I have a 60D...I want to use the lens for my portrait and also sport.
I know the 7D AF is apparently superior...but how much so?
Would I "get away with" the 60D or will I end up kicking myself with frustration till I give in and end up buying the 7D?


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Dec 30, 2012 01:59 |  #2

Good glass > decent body everyday.


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For the last two years I've been using a T1i for shooting birds. I've gotten many shots that are good enough to hang on the wall. I just got my 7D, and it's been raining every day since, so I can't tell you how much (if any) it will improve my keeper rate.


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Dec 30, 2012 08:14 |  #4

I know this has come up before here but to me a Good lens is more important than what body you use in most situations..


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Dec 30, 2012 08:28 |  #5

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1st shot is 1/640, 2.8, iso 32000
2nd and 3rd are in the same gym. Extremely dark. 1/500, 2.8, iso6400. I have your exact setup. I had some good night football also, but I don't have them uploaded. That setup can do what you want in my opinion.



  
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Dec 30, 2012 08:47 |  #6

Johnny010 wrote in post #15422017 (external link)
Good evening.

I am currently a nightlife photographer/portrait-esque stuff and have managed to save enough cash for the rather lovely 70-200mm f2.8 mkii IS canon lens.

Thing is, I have a 60D...I want to use the lens for my portrait and also sport.
I know the 7D AF is apparently superior...but how much so?
Would I "get away with" the 60D or will I end up kicking myself with frustration till I give in and end up buying the 7D?

The 60d is a very capable camera. The 7d is going to give you more fps, and a more sophisticated focus system, but the 60d can do it, and if you search on here you will see great examples. I would get the 70-200, but also pick up a 85mm f/1.8 for indoor sports. The f/2.8 on the 70-200 can be very challenging in dim gyms.




  
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Dec 30, 2012 08:50 |  #7

It all depends on how much you want to ellivate your game. I wasn't happy with my 7D when I jumped from the 50D to the 7D. It doesn't do well in low light conditions like a lot of high school gyms. There is a lot of noise when you get above 1600. Ijust recently got the 5D III and it night and day to the shots I am able to get with that camera. I can shoot at 6400 with minimal noise. I can get up to 10000 and the noise is the same as my 7D. I don't know how the new 6D does for sports, but it's only a few $100 more. Don't know how it performs with high ISO. The frames per second may be its only draw back if you use burst to shoot sports. I don't so it would work for me. I can say you will love the lens. I use it to shoot all of my basketball shots.




  
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Dec 30, 2012 09:18 as a reply to  @ mark2009's post |  #8

Here's an example with a 85mm, I shoot a 50d, so I keep iso under 3200, this was at 2500..
This gym is very dark, but the 85mm works well, great focus and fast. I could not use a f/2.8, gyms are to dark.

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Dec 30, 2012 09:26 |  #9

Czbrat271 wrote in post #15423225 (external link)
It all depends on how much you want to ellivate your game. I wasn't happy with my 7D when I jumped from the 50D to the 7D. It doesn't do well in low light conditions like a lot of high school gyms. There is a lot of noise when you get above 1600. Ijust recently got the 5D III and it night and day to the shots I am able to get with that camera. I can shoot at 6400 with minimal noise. I can get up to 10000 and the noise is the same as my 7D. I don't know how the new 6D does for sports, but it's only a few $100 more. Don't know how it performs with high ISO. The frames per second may be its only draw back if you use burst to shoot sports. I don't so it would work for me. I can say you will love the lens. I use it to shoot all of my basketball shots.

Agree, if you want to drop $3000 plus on a body, the 5dmkiii does a fantastic job. I still don't understand the noise thing, people say the 50d is horrible, I shoot upto 3200"and am happy, and I believe the 7d does a better job? I am going to pick one up in January and will find out, I figure for $1100 for a new 7d is worth a try. I just can't justify over $3000 for a body unless you are making money on them, but everyone spend the $$ differently. I go to aruba twice a year, so go figure.




  
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Dec 30, 2012 10:42 |  #10

Don't bother with the 7D quite yet. If you have to ask the question, you probably still have a lot of room to grow. The 60D is a very capable camera! Don't replace it until you're totally certain you've learned your camera inside and out and actually need more. Just my 2 cents. I used to have a 30D that I shot snowboarding with for years. Worked like a charm. Then it died and my extended warranty got me the 7D as a replacement.


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Dec 30, 2012 10:50 |  #11

Johnny010 wrote in post #15422017 (external link)
Good evening.

I am currently a nightlife photographer/portrait-esque stuff and have managed to save enough cash for the rather lovely 70-200mm f2.8 mkii IS canon lens.

Thing is, I have a 60D...I want to use the lens for my portrait and also sport.
I know the 7D AF is apparently superior...but how much so?
Would I "get away with" the 60D or will I end up kicking myself with frustration till I give in and end up buying the 7D?

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Typically, the camera reflects nothing more than the photographer's ability. There's little that a 7D can do that can't be performed by a 60D.



  
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Dec 30, 2012 11:25 |  #12

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Typically, the camera reflects nothing more than the photographer's ability. There's little that a 7D can do that can't be performed by a 60D.

Yes and no. That really boils down to who's hands its in. ;)


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Dec 30, 2012 12:42 |  #13

Thanks guys.
Will definitely be having a go on the 60D (seeming as I already use one). From the looks of things, it doesn't seem to matter too much. Luckily in the UK, most sports seem to be outdoor. I will mainly be shooting cycling and triathlon (when i am not in it). Also some hockey (not ice...normal hockey).


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Dec 30, 2012 12:48 |  #14

Johnny010 wrote in post #15423878 (external link)
Thanks guys.
Will definitely be having a go on the 60D (seeming as I already use one). From the looks of things, it doesn't seem to matter too much. Luckily in the UK, most sports seem to be outdoor. I will mainly be shooting cycling and triathlon (when i am not in it). Also some hockey (not ice...normal hockey).

Glad we helped persuade you to hang onto what you have since it's a solid tool for sports shooting. Question though: Normal hockey?! Sorry, I'm from Canada and hockey is normally played on ice. Do you mean floor hockey? Roller hockey? I'm curious what is normal in the UK. Enlighten me ;)


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Dec 30, 2012 12:51 |  #15

Field hockey you may call it?


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