Don't have a Shorty Forty yet? BUY ONE!!!

The 40mm works very nicely on the 6D. You can crop like crazy and still get a sharp image. This is a serious crop from a much wider shot.

OK...ordered!

Best Buy has them for $149.99 w/free shipping.
I had a $10.00 reward zone cert that I applied.
So, $148.39 w/tax.

I'll give it a try on my 40D. I hope I like it better than the 50mm that I had.

The price is right but for some folks the lens is all wrong. f/2.8 for a prime just doesn't warrant the loss of versatility. I'll use a zoom if I'm limited to f/2.8.

I'll bite my tongue since I often use my f/2.8 14mm (equiv 28mm prime) on my Olympus OM-D. Its wide for more story telling and extremely small pancake lens compared to a dslr with 40mm pancake. But in this case the M43 camera is substantially lighter and smaller than a Canon Dslr and has equiv IQ to a full frame 5d classic.

The cheaper nifty fifty can provide more shallow dof with handicap of less pleasing bokeh but its still decent.

I did stare at the 40mm for a moment at the camera shop but then realized its not wide enough or fast enough for my shooting style. If I need smaller dof I'd just grab a zoom.

color of the files sooc doesn't concern me since I process all of my raw using the xrite passport colour management system.

Everyone is different so thankfully canon filled some of the gaps for some. 24mm and 35mm seems more logical though.

I think some of you may be confusing background separation that you get at longer focal lengths with actual sharpness of images.

I find the 40mm to be ridiculously sharp. Here is an example- f/4.5, ISO 100, 1/160.

Shot #1 is a 1024X683 resize of the 5184X3456 original

an f/2.8 prime stopped down to f/4.5 should be razor sharp.

Also note the light you used is not challenging since it appears you used 2 shoot through umbrella's. I sure hope a stopped down lens is sharp if not sharper than your example. Also note you shouldn't choke your umbrella too close to the flash. The light has probably only illuminated 60% of your umbrella's....just and observation from your 100% crop.

I'm a fan of the 40mm pancake for what it is - a sharp, well performing, SMALL lens. If I want better quality than my P+S but don't want to lug my full DSLR kit, this on the 5d makes a reasonably compact setup that I can throw over one shoulder and not be bothered by it. The price per performance ratio also makes it a no brainer

AlanU wrote in post #15432490
an f/2.8 prime stopped down to f/4.5 should be razor sharp.

Also note the light you used is not challenging since it appears you used 2 shoot through umbrella's. I sure hope a stopped down lens is sharp if not sharper than your example. Also note you shouldn't choke your umbrella too close to the flash. The light has probably only illuminated 60% of your umbrella's....just and observation from your 100% crop.

Brolly-boxes. f/4.5 is pretty wide open for me! Let's see your counter-example.

Lonnie wrote in post #15432537
Brolly-boxes. f/4.5 is pretty wide open for me! Let's see your counter-example.

how is stopped down a stop and a 1/3 pretty wide open?

a 35f2 stopped down to f4 is pretty sharp...i wouldn't consider that wide open though...

Lonnie wrote in post #15432537
Brolly-boxes. f/4.5 is pretty wide open for me! Let's see your counter-example.

huh? Counter example?

My lenses are all incredibly sharp since I micro adjust any lens that needs a helping hand.

I'm merely saying a stopped down lens will always perform better.f/4.5 is stopped down quite a bit if you have to achieve sharpness.

DreDaze wrote in post #15432542
how is stopped down a stop and a 1/3 pretty wide open?

a 35f2 stopped down to f4 is pretty sharp...i wouldn't consider that wide open though...

The 40mm/2.8 has the following full stops:
2.8--4.0--5.6--8.0--11--16--22

So, out of 7 apertures (full-stop), I chose one that was larger than 5 of them. Is saying fairly wide-open really that out of line? The word 'fairly' should give me a pretty good bit of leeway. I then followed it up by saying 'for me', which should have bought me even more leeway. Maybe I should start adding -ish on the end of everything. Maybe then I will be impervious.

Is this the same lens I am seeing on eBay for 109gbp?

http://www.ebay.co.uk …enses&hash=item​4aba8d32d8

cos if it i, i'm gonna have to click buy it NOW!

Lonnie wrote in post #15432333
I think some of you may be confusing background separation that you get at longer focal lengths with actual sharpness of images.

I find the 40mm to be ridiculously sharp. Here is an example- f/4.5, ISO 100, 1/160.

Shot #1 is a 1024X683 resize of the 5184X3456 original

Next is a 100% crop from the same photo. The sharpness of the photos I get from this lens stands up to ridiculous zoom levels.

this little girl is the spitting image of a young lass I worked with 2 weeks ago! Gorgeous

bethsian91 wrote in post #15432636
Is this the same lens I am seeing on eBay for 109gbp?

http://www.ebay.co.uk …enses&hash=item​4aba8d32d8

cos if it i, i'm gonna have to click buy it NOW!

Yes, it is .

AlanU wrote in post #15432593
huh? Counter example?

My lenses are all incredibly sharp since I micro adjust any lens that needs a helping hand.

I'm merely saying a stopped down lens will always perform better.f/4.5 is stopped down quite a bit if you have to achieve sharpness.

I was looking forward to your 100 percent crop. And yes, sharp photos are a combination of appropriate shutter speed, lighting, aperture, steady camera, etc. I don't shoot any lens wide open unless I need the speed. It's pretty seldom I am looking for that shallow of a DOF.

Lonnie wrote in post #15432634
The 40mm/2.8 has the following full stops:
2.8--4.0--5.6--8.0--11--16--22

So, out of 7 apertures (full-stop), I chose one that was larger than 5 of them. Is saying fairly wide-open really that out of line? The word 'fairly' should give me a pretty good bit of leeway. I then followed it up by saying 'for me', which should have bought me even more leeway. Maybe I should start adding -ish on the end of everything. Maybe then I will be impervious.

'for me' is the big line i guess...cause for me...it's either wide open...or it's not...there's not really a 'sort of stopped down'...'wide-open-ish'...'kinda wide open'...

it's either wide open, or you stopped it down...i view it more as black and white, and you don't...i don't think either one of us cares all that much though...