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Dec 23, 2012 18:39 |  #31

I'm presently renting a 6D to evaluate whether I'm finally updating to FF from my 40D -- I was anxious to see how I liked my 24-105L on the FF format and it is proving to be a very good lens in this format -- I think the OP could do well with it and wait for the prices to drop (or a new option to appear) in the coming year(s) -- the 24-105L may not be the best lens, but it is a heck of a good one. I'd say go with the 24-105L at the present prices -- you'll likely not lose much if any money on resale if you decide to upgrade later --




  
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Dec 23, 2012 19:07 |  #32

Roroco wrote in post #15401109 (external link)
I am a weak.... weak man. I noticed DigitalRev has the Tammy for $1,129 with free shipping and no taxes. That is a bit easier to swallow. THANKS EVERYONE.

http://www.digitalrev.​com …-24-70mm-f/MTAwMDMyMw_A_A (external link)

Next I have to decide if my 50mm and 28mm get traded in for the new Sigma 35.

I think that means you ordered it - congratulations and enjoy your new lens!

Come back to this thread and let us know what you think of the lens!


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Dec 23, 2012 19:13 |  #33

jimewall wrote in post #15401250 (external link)
I think that means you ordered it - congratulations and enjoy your new lens!

Come back to this thread and let us know what you think of the lens!

Thanks. I'll let you know how it turns out.


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Dec 23, 2012 19:25 |  #34

Roroco wrote in post #15401109 (external link)
I am a weak.... weak man. I noticed DigitalRev has the Tammy for $1,129 with free shipping and no taxes. That is a bit easier to swallow. THANKS EVERYONE.

http://www.digitalrev.​com …-24-70mm-f/MTAwMDMyMw_A_A (external link)

Next I have to decide if my 50mm and 28mm get traded in for the new Sigma 35.

Where are you based? You wont have 6 year warranty buying there.


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Dec 23, 2012 19:31 |  #35

vaflower wrote in post #15401318 (external link)
Where are you based? You wont have 6 year warranty buying there.

I'm in the US. Why won't I have a warranty? I thought DR was a good company and Tamron wasn't as picky as Canon.

Edit... Looks like they have programs to address any warranty issues that may come up. https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1008379


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Dec 23, 2012 19:39 |  #36

Roroco wrote in post #15401340 (external link)
I'm in the US. Why won't I have a warranty? I thought DR was a good company and Tamron wasn't as picky as Canon.

Edit... Looks like they have programs to address any warranty issues that may come up. https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1008379


http://www.tamron-usa.com/lenses/warrant​y.asp (external link)

" Only Tamron lenses imported officially by Tamron USA, Inc. and distributed by authorized Tamron USA, Inc. dealers carry a Six-Year Limited USA warranty. "

I don't see how digitalreav can have 6 year USA warranty since they are based in HongKong.


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Dec 28, 2012 14:05 |  #37

So I got the Tammy yesterday. I haven't put it through its paces yet, I am impressed with the build quality. But, then again, I am easy to please when looking at large front elements. The lens does feel solid. My only qualms so far is the reverse zoom (minor nit), and the zoom motion. It is a little stiff from stock and it requires a lot of motion from 24mm to 70mm. It makes it difficult to go to the extremes with a one finger zoom.

That said, I am a bit spoiled with my internal zooms like my 70-200 and 17-40, and I don't know how the Tammy compares to the Canon 24-70.

Still, the IS and the image quality is FAR more important.

Just my initial thoughts.


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Dec 28, 2012 14:40 |  #38

Roroco wrote in post #15399335 (external link)
Canon 24-70 f2.8 II - I do not make my money off of photography, but I am in a potion that I can afford this lens if I really want it.

bw!

Can I afford it by drinking the potion, or do I ACTUALLY have to DIVE IN IT?

Seriously, this lens is in a league by itself... If you set your eyes on it... there is nothing else...:(


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Dec 28, 2012 15:20 |  #39

Just took delivery of the Tammy myself, my initial impressions echo Roger's. Zoom and focus rings aren't as smooth as L-series glass, but the overall built quality is very nice. AF is speed is pleasantly quick and the VC works very well and is completely silent. I'll be testing this against a 35L very soon since I'm looking to replace that lens with this one.


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Dec 30, 2012 16:39 |  #40

Wow, a bunch of us with the same dilemma. I bought the 5D3 kit but intend to sell the 24-105 since I'm not excited about the f4. My current lens is a 50mm and know that a 70-200 is in my future so I'm deciding between a 24-70 or primes for that range.




  
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Dec 30, 2012 17:41 |  #41

blackdawgphoto wrote in post #15424677 (external link)
Wow, a bunch of us with the same dilemma. I bought the 5D3 kit but intend to sell the 24-105 since I'm not excited about the f4. My current lens is a 50mm and know that a 70-200 is in my future so I'm deciding between a 24-70 or primes for that range.

Same here. Just got my 5D3 last Thursday; using my 70-200 f/4 for now and plan on selling off the 24-105 kit lens. I must have the 24-70 f/2.8L II as soon as possible! I don't care about IS! :twisted:




  
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Jan 01, 2013 20:54 |  #42

So far, I haven't had much opportunity to shoot, but I am loving the Tamron. I am sure the Canon is a bit sharper, but I don't know if it is $1,000 dollars and no-IS sharper. I think the Tammy will work perfectly for me - until the Canon 24-70 f2.8 IS is announced.

Here is just a simple shot of my boy... It shows the lens being pretty sharp even on the edges.

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Jan 01, 2013 21:29 |  #43

I just went through this same exact thing. Ended up going for a used Tamron with the 6 year warranty still intact. I picked mine up from Ebay for less than $1000. Took a couple weeks to find one but I'm glad I waited and didn't settle for the 24-105. The normal used price on one of these is $1100ish but they are few and far between.

Roroco wrote in post #15399335 (external link)
I know this is probably the most talked about discussion here, but I am twisted up about it. I recently moved from the 7D to the 5DmkIII. I have sold my 10-22mm and replaced it with the 17-40. Now, I am having issues with what will replace my old Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS. I have all my ranges covered for now, so I am not in a big hurry, but my Sig was one of my most used lens because I do a lot with strobes. I didn't need prime speed and I liked the range in these situations. Outside of that, I like a standard zoom as a walk around in non-low-light.

So, I am itching to get a standard zoom, but I am torn:

Canon 24-105 f4 IS - At 750 street price around here (white boxes), this would be perfect for my stobist needs and good for video. With the 5D3's high ISO capabilities, it can suit me for most occasions. I am just wondering if I will regret not getting a 2.8 lens now that I am FF. I would like to feel like I am taking a step forward and not laterally.

Canon 24-70 f2.8 II - I do not make my money off of photography, but I am in a potion that I can afford this lens if I really want it. I would love the sharpness of this lens. My big issue with this lens is the lack of IS for this price. When I am shooting my kids, I like to get video every so often. The IS would be awesome for that.

Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC - This one seems like a perfect fit for me. It is sharp enough for my needs and has VC. I would get this lens in a heartbeat, but it is still selling for MSRP. Because I am not a pro, I always justify lens purchases because of their resale value. If I buy a new lens, it is because I know I will own that lens for a LONG time, or if the resale value will hold.

Am I crazy about the MSPR thing on the Tamron? Will this lens become cheaper anytime in the near future? I am willing to wait a few months, but I would love to hear your thoughts on which one you would go with in my situation.

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Jan 03, 2013 09:01 |  #44

After years with crop cameras, the latest being a 60D i jumped ship and got a 5DMKIII last Sept. My current zoom was a 15-85 so i had to quickly get a FF zoom. I went for the obvious choice and got a 24-105L. Nice lens, ive had two before on my crops but i found it a boring lens. No real idea why, maybe its just the f/4 as opposed to f/2.8 that i was used to with my old 17-55 f/2.8.
Anyway, after a month or so a mate got a Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 and we were both very impressed with it.
I got one just before christmas and promptly sold the 24-105L. I wasn't using it much anyway as i had just re discovered primes (no L's though). The thing that struck me with the Tamron was how much nicer it feels and works compared to my old 28-75 f/2.8. World apart, although i expect IQ is very close.
I couldn't afford the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 MKII, and even if i could i really wanted a stabilised lens. I know the 5D has wonderful high ISO but being able to shoot at 1/8 in low light and not need to go too high makes a real difference IMO. I also find the VC to be a lto quieter than on the 24-105L and that helps with hand held video indoors.

Took this the other night. 1/8th ISO3200

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Jan 12, 2013 00:11 |  #45

I've decided on the 24-70L II myself. I had both the Tamron and Canon in possession at the same time, and while they're both amazing lenses, I think the Canon is better in every way aside from the obvious lack of IS and shorter warranty.

It's better built, with smoother controls and a nicer overall feel; it just feels better on my 5D MKIII. I prefer the way the zoom ring turns and the position of the zoom and focus rings.

As far as the images go, the Canon images are sharper, more contrasty and the colors are better. At 24mm there is less distortion and less vignetting wide open. Is the Canon $700 better? I intend to own this lens a long time, so the extra cost is worth it to me. If I owned the Tamron, I would personally always think I'm leaving something on the table knowing a better lens is out there for slightly more money.


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