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Jan 01, 2013 15:46 |  #8581

photophilth wrote in post #15429342 (external link)
There are some tried an true recipes out there, but there are also some people on board that have gotten very creative using out of the ordinary pieceslike windsail booms and whatnot.

Most of us use aluminum for booms. Some of it is prefabricated with threaded joints and others, like mine, have been machined to fit into each other with great accuracy and strength.

Avenger and woods cups are widely used as are the super clamps.

Carbon fiber is super fancy and lightweight for a boom and looks great, but for the price is hard to justify for some for the added benefits.

Thanks ... I have seen some folks who mount the boom coming up from under the car, and seen others that mount with the suction cups to the top surfaces of the car.. I have also seen some that use a steel cable to keep the boom stable... seems like there are a number of methods out there... I wish I could see a single page/site where there was a list of all the techniques and ways to build a rig ...

I heard about a company/person selling "Rig-Pro" stuff through Facebook (they don't have a website)... so I contacted them.. they want $900 for a 20 foot rig setup, which seems VERY pricey. They said it comes with the following:
- Rig-Pro™ 20-foot, 4-section aluminum boom with threaded couplers and heavy duty thread protectors (1)
- Rig-Pro™ suction cup assemblies with short adapter and removable swivels (2) (Avenger cups can be bought for about $50 each through Amazon)
- Manfrotto Magic-Arm assembly with camera platform (1) ($105 through Amazon)
- Rig-Pro™ 6" aluminum suction cup extension (1)
- Manfrotto Superclamps (3) ($24 each through BH photo)

So basically, $275 worth of clamps, suction cups and magic arm... and the boom is another $625.00 ???


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Jan 01, 2013 21:57 |  #8582

cal_gecko wrote in post #15431927 (external link)
Thanks ... I have seen some folks who mount the boom coming up from under the car, and seen others that mount with the suction cups to the top surfaces of the car.. I have also seen some that use a steel cable to keep the boom stable... seems like there are a number of methods out there... I wish I could see a single page/site where there was a list of all the techniques and ways to build a rig ...

Everyone has their own way, depending on the result they want to get. Sounds like to me you already have all the info.

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I heard about a company/person selling "Rig-Pro" stuff through Facebook (they don't have a website)... so I contacted them.. they want $900 for a 20 foot rig setup, which seems VERY pricey. They said it comes with the following:
- Rig-Pro™ 20-foot, 4-section aluminum boom with threaded couplers and heavy duty thread protectors (1)
- Rig-Pro™ suction cup assemblies with short adapter and removable swivels (2) (Avenger cups can be bought for about $50 each through Amazon)
- Manfrotto Magic-Arm assembly with camera platform (1) ($105 through Amazon)
- Rig-Pro™ 6" aluminum suction cup extension (1)
- Manfrotto Superclamps (3) ($24 each through BH photo)

So basically, $275 worth of clamps, suction cups and magic arm... and the boom is another $625.00 ???

I am Rig-Pro.

First, it's not $275 worth of clamps, suction cups and magic-arm. You've got the superclamps, and magic-arm right (and your price is the same as mine), but the Rig-Pro cups are quite a bit more expensive than Avengers, and for good reason; they're a whole lot better. After that you add the price of the 6" aluminum cup extension, 20-foot, 4-section boom, shipping, and PayPal fees. Lastly, I operate a business, so I have to make a profit on each item, so you will pay a little more for each piece for the one-stop-shop.

The bottom line is, buy whatever you want, but if you want quality, and convenience, you'll pay a little more.

Cheers,

-Andrew


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Jan 02, 2013 07:14 |  #8583

Hi guys,

for the completion of high school, I decided that I create myself RIG. Therefore, you just asked you if you can help in this. I need any plans for making rig, informations on materials, the fitting of RIG on the car, etc. ...

Thank you very much for help!

ps: I apologize if more about this is written in this thread, I have not read nearly 600 pages of topics. :)

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Jan 03, 2013 10:13 |  #8584

VisualEchos wrote in post #15433258 (external link)
Everyone has their own way, depending on the result they want to get. Sounds like to me you already have all the info.

I am Rig-Pro.

First, it's not $275 worth of clamps, suction cups and magic-arm. You've got the superclamps, and magic-arm right (and your price is the same as mine), but the Rig-Pro cups are quite a bit more expensive than Avengers, and for good reason; they're a whole lot better. After that you add the price of the 6" aluminum cup extension, 20-foot, 4-section boom, shipping, and PayPal fees. Lastly, I operate a business, so I have to make a profit on each item, so you will pay a little more for each piece for the one-stop-shop.

The bottom line is, buy whatever you want, but if you want quality, and convenience, you'll pay a little more.

Cheers,

-Andrew

he does make everything done in one shot. It took me forever to build all my rigs, and a lot of fussing and failing or searching local machine shops.

Its like with anything diy self or pay someone else to do it. Andrew (rig pro ) is a good guy he's been more than helpful on this forum. He is still running a business though. Even though I built my rig, I help support him in some parts and accessories. It saved me a headache and some time.


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Jan 03, 2013 12:54 |  #8585

Thanks man :)


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Jan 03, 2013 13:30 as a reply to  @ VisualEchos's post |  #8586

Something from the end of 2012 ;) a little bit of fun with E46 Touring and friends ;)

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Jan 03, 2013 14:02 |  #8587

Awesome thread. Gotta look into one of these soon.


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Jan 03, 2013 16:18 |  #8588

Fun rig-shots FTW!


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Jan 03, 2013 21:30 |  #8589

This was a pretty interesting shoot, wasn't a place to put a clamp on the back, so all the engineers came with a genious idea....er.....an idea.

The cup at the back of the car was actually ratchet strapped around the body lol.

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Jan 03, 2013 22:20 |  #8590

Second ever rig shot :) I really suffered with noise and softness on this one. Tried to correct it as best I could but the road was just too rough and the shadows too dark :(

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Also what do you guys do in terms of resizing for various websites? THey all seem to have different rules for uploading and some create some pretty bad artefacts when they compress the images. Facebook especially I find impossible to keep looking sharp without the bad artefacts!

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Jan 03, 2013 22:31 |  #8591

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Second ever rig shot :) I really suffered with noise and softness on this one. Tried to correct it as best I could but the road was just too rough and the shadows too dark :(

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Also what do you guys do in terms of resizing for various websites? THey all seem to have different rules for uploading and some create some pretty bad artefacts when they compress the images. Facebook especially I find impossible to keep looking sharp without the bad artefacts!

get a flickr account and you will be fine.




  
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Jan 03, 2013 22:32 |  #8592

cal_gecko wrote in post #15431927 (external link)
Thanks ... I have seen some folks who mount the boom coming up from under the car, and seen others that mount with the suction cups to the top surfaces of the car.. I have also seen some that use a steel cable to keep the boom stable... seems like there are a number of methods out there... I wish I could see a single page/site where there was a list of all the techniques and ways to build a rig ...

I heard about a company/person selling "Rig-Pro" stuff through Facebook (they don't have a website)... so I contacted them.. they want $900 for a 20 foot rig setup, which seems VERY pricey. They said it comes with the following:
- Rig-Pro™ 20-foot, 4-section aluminum boom with threaded couplers and heavy duty thread protectors (1)
- Rig-Pro™ suction cup assemblies with short adapter and removable swivels (2) (Avenger cups can be bought for about $50 each through Amazon)
- Manfrotto Magic-Arm assembly with camera platform (1) ($105 through Amazon)
- Rig-Pro™ 6" aluminum suction cup extension (1)
- Manfrotto Superclamps (3) ($24 each through BH photo)

So basically, $275 worth of clamps, suction cups and magic arm... and the boom is another $625.00 ???

woh didnt know a "rig pro" cost that much.




  
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Jan 03, 2013 22:34 |  #8593

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2nd rig shot ever, input greatly appreciated. I definitely need an ND filter though.
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ok this answers my question on how you are getting such sharp results and motion at the same time. 1st shot = still shot, 2nd = motion shot.




  
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Jan 03, 2013 23:06 |  #8594

Fat Buff Guy wrote in post #15441757 (external link)
This was a pretty interesting shoot, wasn't a place to put a clamp on the back, so all the engineers came with a genious idea....er.....an idea.

The cup at the back of the car was actually ratchet strapped around the body lol.

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So cool! I might have an opportunity to shoot a similar car. Any pointers!?




  
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Jan 03, 2013 23:42 |  #8595

photophilth wrote in post #15442058 (external link)
So cool! I might have an opportunity to shoot a similar car. Any pointers!?

Yeah, bring ratchet straps lol.

But seriously, these cars are built not flimsy, but the body panels/wings aren't made to be able to hold a lot of weight so be prepared and bring what ever cups, clamps, straps you have.

And forget about putting the cups over areas with a bunch of little stickers. They held for all of about 2 seconds. It's tricky but it can be done.

I would also make sure, if you are shooting for the team to do a couple of really wide, or pulled back shots so if they want to use them for poster they have room for sponsorship logo's and such.

http://www.flickr.com …6/sets/72157632​426629649/ (external link)

Here a the small set from that shoot, if you can pull some idea's off it great!

also the best shot this one, was done on a bike path. It worked pretty slick, nice and tight it gave us really nice motion

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