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Jan 06, 2013 11:22 |  #331

I have to agree with those who say a properly exposed shot at 6400 is usable when taken in the right situation.

These were shot out of a very dirty window. The first photo was metered against the sky and the second against the tree. The first photo had the exposure brought up to get an approximation of what the tree looke like and the second brought down.

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Jan 06, 2013 16:26 |  #332

LOL. Okay for a newspaper print I suppose but that's about it. Anything above iso 400 on a 7d is ok for a reference shot but it won't win any clean image awards!


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Jan 06, 2013 17:06 |  #333

jerrythesnake wrote in post #15453187 (external link)
LOL. Okay for a newspaper print I suppose but that's about it. Anything above iso 400 on a 7d is ok for a reference shot but it won't win any clean image awards!

I disagree. yeah this is not award winning but it is a shot I took a few hours ago on a cloudy winter day.

the model may not be the most beautiful she has ever been but I consider this awesome for 12800 SOOC

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Jan 06, 2013 18:05 |  #334

I will give you that . If you have available light. Try the same shot when the light is fading and you need a higher iso to compensate for speed?


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Jan 06, 2013 18:54 as a reply to  @ jerrythesnake's post |  #335

Alright, Yes I lose sharpness.

Yes there is significantly more noise. but no where near the "horrendousness" everyone claims it to be. after a 60 second NR job I think they came out alright. would I sell these to a client? probably not. but saying that these ISO are "unusable" is a little dramatic


the first three are SOOC

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and these are after a quick NR job. the eye is a from 1347 after NR

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I also adjusted the exposure on this one
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Jan 06, 2013 20:03 |  #336

Beautiful dog and definitely useable shots.


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Jan 06, 2013 20:06 |  #337

Possible after a number of post its fair to say we can all agree to disagree!... Kenji pop those pics up , I'm with the KenJ




  
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Jan 06, 2013 20:10 |  #338

KenjiS wrote in post #15449895 (external link)
FYI, I used to run a 30D and I agree that 800 was really pushing it and 1600 was bad, The 7D handles high ISO noise FAR better than the 30D...

Indeed, as it should -- many years apart (and price). However, with the APS-C sensors I always saw the ISO performance incremental at best. Meaning, 7D not leaps and bounds over the 60D which wasn't leaps and bounds over the 50D. Better, yes, but I don't even think we're talking about F-stops here. Of course, I'm going to be bias as I was looking at people shooting their 5d2 in the dark. ;)

I've not used a 7D much and a lot of what I go on is from friends that use both bodies. I'm sure there are some situations w/ a 7D that high ISO can work. With the 5d2, much less thought has to go in. That's by and large what I mean by "usable ISO" settings.




  
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Jan 06, 2013 20:42 |  #339

2n10 wrote in post #15454052 (external link)
Beautiful dog and definitely useable shots.

thank you! she never minds being my model


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Jan 07, 2013 15:30 |  #340

Lichter21c wrote in post #15453731 (external link)
Alright, Yes I lose sharpness.

Yes there is significantly more noise. but no where near the "horrendousness" everyone claims it to be. after a 60 second NR job I think they came out alright. would I sell these to a client? probably not. but saying that these ISO are "unusable" is a little dramatic

To my eyes, these are very good for a 7D, and i think it still looks great on prints. I don't think I can even get that good on my 7D at that ISO. When the image is properly exposed via the camera at ISO 3200, the image barely make it through after some NR.


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Jan 07, 2013 15:55 |  #341

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To my eyes, these are very good for a 7D, and i think it still looks great on prints. I don't think I can even get that good on my 7D at that ISO. When the image is properly exposed via the camera at ISO 3200, the image barely make it through after some NR.

if you look through the forums here there are a few threads on how to get the most out of the 7D. TeamSpeed has done a very good one...

essentially you expose to the right. those are either pushed 2/3-1 full stop over exposed. make sure you do not blow out any highlights. but it helps with the noise. also when shooting at very high ISO I set my in camera NR to 'High"


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Jan 08, 2013 10:03 as a reply to  @ Lichter21c's post |  #342

Some more.. I think ISO800 is my most used ISO.... Some arent my best.. I just dont use ISO3200 very often... I think I thought of a new challenge for me though

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Jan 08, 2013 15:43 |  #343

i hate how the last 3 pages of this thread has been hijacked arguing over usable ISO... :rolleyes:


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Jan 08, 2013 16:36 |  #344

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i hate how the last 3 pages of this thread has been hijacked arguing over usable ISO... :rolleyes:

Same actually... I kinda feel the naysayers are trolling lol


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Jan 08, 2013 17:01 |  #345

KenjiS wrote in post #15462728 (external link)
Same actually... I kinda feel the naysayers are trolling lol

I agree on the trolls.


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